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Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by tick_tock_tick on Monday January 26, 2026 @04:52PM (#46772078)
But they EU doesn't make any software... So unless Canada is willing to go with Chinese software which would kinda invalidate any "moral" ground they have and well frankly the USA wouldn't allow it seems like the USA can take it for granted.
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by charles_f on Monday January 26, 2026 @06:18PM (#46773113)
Canada's software market was $73B in 2024.

https://www.grandviewresearch.com/horizon/outlook/software-m...

Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by tick_tock_tick on Monday January 26, 2026 @06:57PM (#46773522)
Am I missing something when I go to the companies here all of them except SAP are USA companies? So this research is just pointing out that Canada spends all it's software money in the USA?
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by 3acctforcom on Monday January 26, 2026 @07:21PM (#46773764)
I'm in public sector IT and yes, Microsoft Canada is considered a Canadian company. And yes, it's dumb as hell.

As a response to the tariffs we were told to use Canadian companies, and lo and behold, all of our big name software companies were magically Canadian.

Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by anon291 on Monday January 26, 2026 @11:12PM (#46775450)
Mostly because it's easier to get a Canadian visa and pay less. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this in hiring panels.
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by estimator7292 on Monday January 26, 2026 @06:05PM (#46772963)
Canada just announced a huge deal with China last week. You're wrong on all counts.
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by timbit42 on Monday January 26, 2026 @07:26PM (#46773800)
No. You're wrong on all counts. That was not a "huge deal". Canada reduced tariffs on EVs to get reduced tariffs on some agriculture items. This put things back to where they were a few years ago. Canada doesn't have a free trade deal with China like it does with the US and Mexico.
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by hadlock on Monday January 26, 2026 @08:30PM (#46774335)
Canada has been extremely closely aligned with US vehicle manufacturing for over a century. I'm not sure if Canada has a bigger lever to shoot american auto manufacturing in the leg. Opening the door to Chinese electric vehicles rattles the very foundations of American manufacturing. If anything, "huge deal" was an understatement.
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by timbit42 on Monday January 26, 2026 @09:36PM (#46774826)
No, the "huge deal" was when the US crippled the entire North American vehicle manufacturing industry.
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by beezlewax on Monday January 26, 2026 @05:43PM (#46772693)
The EU doesn't make any software? Really now..
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by storystarling on Monday January 26, 2026 @05:46PM (#46772724)
It feels like France is actually leading on the infrastructure side of things right now. With Mistral and Hugging Face both in Paris, the open source AI ecosystem is pretty heavily concentrated there.
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by tensor on Monday January 26, 2026 @06:47PM (#46773417)
And OVH and Scaleway. Also Gandi.
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by microtonal on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @02:34AM (#46776614)
And Murena, one of the best shots at an alternative mobile OS ecosystem in Europe (preferably on Fairphone, which is Dutch).

Though Germany has a lot of light and heavyweights as well, SAP, SUSE, NextCloud, Hetzner, etc.

Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by account42 on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @04:14AM (#46777452)
Lol Gandi is a joke now that they have entered the desperately milking any remaining customers that haven't moved off yet phase.
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by Bayart on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @07:40AM (#46779221)
Having worked extensively with OVH and Scaleway, I find it to be a far cry from what American hyperscalers offers. The cloud offering is just too thin and brittle as of now, though I think they will eventually get there because of the CLOUD Act which in the long term might prove to be a gigantic own-goal on the part of the US.
Re:France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Tea... by Bayart on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @07:34AM (#46779164)
Europe makes lots of quality software, it just doesn't scale economically. And that's an issue with access to capital and to a lesser extent legal fragmentation, not talent or willingness. That's why there's a constant push for markets reforms in the EU, on top of unified corporate structures (one might even call them "federal") being in the pipeline.