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Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by keybored on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:50PM (#46757509)
I sometimes imagine that HN was a professional collective. Maybe working with the supply chain of foodstuffs. Carciogenic foodstuff would be legal. Environmental harzards getting into foodstuff would be legal. But there would be a highly ideological subgroup that would advocate for something that would very indirectly handle these problems. And the rest of the professional collective are mixed and divided on whether they are good or what they are actually working towards. A few would have the insight to realize that one of the main people behind the group foresaw these problems that are current right now 30 years ago.

That people ingest environmental hazards and carciogens would be viewed as a failure of da masses to abstractly consider the pitfalls of understanding the problems inherent to the logistics of foodstuffs in the context of big corporations.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by Rodeoclash on Sunday January 25, 2026 @04:13PM (#46758297)
The older I get the more disconnected I feel from some of the posters on this site. I can't remember exactly when I joined, 2012ish maybe? But the takes people have seem to be getting wilder and wilder.
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by phatfish on Sunday January 25, 2026 @05:03PM (#46758870)
Most users here are American, have you seen what is happening in America?

The funny (sad) thing is all the hot takes about the UK or Europe being a "police state" because porn is being blocked for kids, or persistent abuse on social media actually has repercussion (as it does in the real world already).

Meanwhile ICE are murdering US citizens in the streets. Turns out American "free speech" doesn't prevent an authoritarian regime taking hold.

To clarify, i do believe in free speech. But until you are bundled into a black car for holding up poster with a political statement (like in Russia or China), you have free speech. Attempting to stop abuse on social media is not the same. The closest we have to preventing free speech in the UK is the Israel/Gaza "issue".

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by mike50 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @10:19PM (#46761476)
Many people in the UK were detained or interviewed by police for protesting Israeli actions.
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by phatfish on Monday January 26, 2026 @05:59AM (#46764163)
Yup, I called out Israel/Palestine.
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by JuniperMesos on Sunday January 25, 2026 @11:59PM (#46762040)
Lucy Connolly was imprisoned for about a year in the UK for posting an inflammatory anti-immigration social media post which was deemed illegal under UK law, and is currently being threatened (https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2157938/lucy-connolly-pris... ) with being returned to jail for posting social media content attacking the current UK government.

This is hardly the only example of the UK, or other Anglophone democracies, criminalizing speech with actual prison time. I'm not happy with UK laws trying to block VPNs under the pretense of blocking porn for minors either.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by square_usual on Monday January 26, 2026 @12:04AM (#46762069)
… did you read your own linked article?

> she was jailed for calling for mass deportation and for migrant hotels to be set on fire

That’s literally calling for violence?

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by rsynnott on Monday January 26, 2026 @05:05AM (#46763741)
Can’t even incite murder anymore without being put in prison; it’s political correctness gone mad!

There is no country in the world where inciting arson of housing counts as free speech. The UK has actual problems with free speech (particularly the Online Safety Act), but this isn't one of them.

In whatsapp:

> She said that if Ofsted were to get involved, she would tell them it was not her and that she had been the victim of doxing

Bit more crime, there (she worked in a regulated industry around kids; lying to the regulator isn't allowed).

> She went on to say that if she got arrested she would “play the mental health card”.

PLEASE STOP SAYING YOU WILL DO CRIMES.

(I'm always amazed that so many criminals end up having these incriminating conversations on WhatsApp and similar; have they never read the news or watched any crime drama? In a vacuum she'd probably have got off!)

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by Amezarak on Monday January 26, 2026 @12:08PM (#46768277)
> There is no country in the world where inciting arson of housing counts as free speech.

Wrong. In the USA that speech would have been protected. It obviously does not meet the imminent lawless action standard and is not meaningfully incitement.

What she actually said was:

> “Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f*** hotels full of the ba***s for all I care … if that makes me racist so be it.”

This is clearly someone just angrily ranting. It's absurd nonsense to pretend otherwise. Imagine arresting everyone who said "punch Nazis" because that's "incitement." The UK is one of the worst speech control regimes in the world on any honest scale - even in most third-world dictatorships at least the state isn't strong or coordinated enough to go after most people for this stuff.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by direwolf20 on Monday January 26, 2026 @08:15AM (#46765258)
What did the post say?

<insert angry goose meme>

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by JuniperMesos on Monday January 26, 2026 @01:16PM (#46769372)
"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f** hotels full of the ba**s for all I care … if that makes me racist so be it."

Which is an insane thing to imprison someone for a year for and to continue threatening them with prison for on account of their continued social media political criticism of their government.

Honestly I'm not sure if it would be legal for me to write this very comment quoting the original tweet if I was subject to UK law.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by jjgreen on Monday January 26, 2026 @04:23AM (#46763484)
Have a go (in the UK) with a poster reading "I support Palestine Action"
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by phatfish on Monday January 26, 2026 @06:01AM (#46764178)
Yup, I called out Israel/Palestine. I don't agree with how speech is suppressed on this issue, it has been that way for a long time though.