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Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by hamdingers on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @02:07PM (#46710031)
> If other tech companies really wanted to break this monopoly, why can't they just do it

Google is a verb, nobody can compete with that level of mindshare.

Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by observationist on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @02:23PM (#46710238)
A big part of it is about the legal minefield if you presented any sort of real threat to Google. Nobody wants to wager billions in infrastructure and IP against Google or Apple or Microsoft, even if you could whip up a viable competing product in a weekend (for any given product.)

Part of it is also the ecosystem - don't threaten adtech, because the wrong lawsuits, the wrong consumer trend, the wrong innovation that undercuts the entire adtech ecosystem means they lose their goose with the golden eggs.

Even if Kagi or some other company achieves legitimate mindshare in search, they still don't have the infrastructure and ancillary products and cash reserves of Google, etc. The second they become a real "threat" in Google's eyes, they'd start seeing lawsuits over IP and hostile and aggressive resource acquisitions to freeze out their expansion, arbitrary deranking in search results, possible heightened government audits and regulatory interactions, and so on. They have access to a shit ton of legal levers, not to mention the whole endless flood of dirty tricks money can buy (not that Google would ever do that.)

They're institutional at this point; they're only going away if/when government decides to break it up and make things sane again.

Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by wongarsu on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @02:16PM (#46710140)
Xerox is a verb, but most copy machines I see are made by their competition
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by hamdingers on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @02:19PM (#46710179)
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by cowsandmilk on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @04:07PM (#46711577)
Licensing their index doesn’t change that.
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by eikenberry on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @02:18PM (#46710166)
Kleenex isn't the only brand of tissues sold in stores.
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by Zyst on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @02:19PM (#46710177)
So were AOL, and Skype
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by dylan604 on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @05:05PM (#46712258)
I don't ever recall anyone using AOL as a verb. How would you do that?
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by terespuwash on Thursday January 22, 2026 @02:47AM (#46716373)
Let me AOL this for you
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by dylan604 on Thursday January 22, 2026 @12:04PM (#46721949)
said no one ever
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by mgiampapa on Friday January 23, 2026 @06:02AM (#46731057)
You clearly did not live in the world of watching two teens on computers in the same room hold two entirely different conversations out-loud and over AIM.
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by iamacyborg on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @06:13PM (#46713015)
How’s that working out for Hoover in the UK?