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Re:PCs refuse to shut down after Microsoft patch by spookie on Saturday January 17, 2026 @11:33AM (#46659352)
GNOME devs really are special. I wonder why.
Re:PCs refuse to shut down after Microsoft patch by shevy-java on Saturday January 17, 2026 @11:57AM (#46659588)
It is not just GNOME devs. Try to interact with systemd-poettering or I-pwn-glibc-Drepper. For some reason the Red Hat centric guys are troublemakers.

More recently KDE devs also became troublemakers - first David "all must use systemd", then nate "I-can-ask-for-donations-at-will-by-placing-a-trojan-daemon-onto-people-whose-sole-job-is-to-ask-for-donations" (more about this guy here: https://jriddell.org/2025/09/14/adios-chicos-25-years-of-kde...) and of course the "there are no xorg-server users left on KDE, so all must use wayland". Developers became a LOT more like dictators in the last 10 years specifically. This was a change indeed. I am not sure what happened, but things changed. GTK is now also a pure GNOMEY dev-kit. Good luck trying to convince the GTK devs of anything that used to be possible in gtk2 or gtk3 - it is now GNOME only.

Re:PCs refuse to shut down after Microsoft patch by RicoElectrico on Saturday January 17, 2026 @12:34PM (#46660001)
I'm pretty scared what userland piece of software will be re-written while ditching backwards compatibility and making the current body of support knowledge worthless. After all, we've replaced the display server (sort of), audio, init and service management, network commands (netplan) if not much more.

My bet would be on a rewrite of CUPS in Rust. Oh, your printer that worked for 20 years is now a useless brick? What a shame, at least now the printing subsystem is secure and blazing fast.

Re:PCs refuse to shut down after Microsoft patch by steve1977 on Saturday January 17, 2026 @12:57PM (#46660220)
Not even Rust zealots want to touch printing ;)
Re:PCs refuse to shut down after Microsoft patch by networkadmin on Saturday January 17, 2026 @05:35PM (#46662795)
> My bet would be on a rewrite of CUPS in Rust.

Please, don't give them any ideas.

Re:PCs refuse to shut down after Microsoft patch by shakna on Saturday January 17, 2026 @06:34PM (#46663232)
Well, as Apple has basically abandoned CUPS, and not everyone uses the OpenPrinting fork, things in that space are getting "fun".
Re:PCs refuse to shut down after Microsoft patch by eagle2com on Sunday January 18, 2026 @05:01AM (#46666418)
Please, printers have never worked, it's a side effect when they do.
Re:PCs refuse to shut down after Microsoft patch by kombine on Saturday January 17, 2026 @03:31PM (#46661753)
https://pointieststick.com/2025/03/10/personal-and-professio... for the sake of completeness here's Nate Graham version of events.