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Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:23AM (#46646625)
It's not because it's new that it is good and something you want.

You can say yes to streaming and no to AI songs.

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by bitshiftfaced on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:27AM (#46646665)
Doesn't topping a popularity chart mean that it was "good" at least to many people?
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by happytoexplain on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:30AM (#46646699)
Lots of things are "good" in some contexts and "bad" in others. You may disagree that the mere existence of a list that omits AI is "good" for some people, but those people disagree with you.
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:35AM (#46646760)
Cocaine is also popular, does that make it good?
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by bitshiftfaced on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:52AM (#46646906)
There are well-known negative side effects. What are the side effects to listening to AI music? If there are negative side effects, then I'd guess they'd be shared with non-AI music, since they sound pretty close to the same by now. Or, maybe the "negative" side effect from the industry's perspective is that the price of listening to music will drop.
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @10:08AM (#46647106)
The largest side effect is that music won't be made by humans anymore.
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by pawelduda on Friday January 16, 2026 @10:19AM (#46647242)
Is someone banning humans from making music?
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @10:42AM (#46647579)
No, but if something is going to be close to free to produce the consequence will be that no commercial piece of music will be incentivized to be produced by humans.

Commercial music isn't the only way to make music, but it pays people that want to professionally work as musicians.

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by bitshiftfaced on Friday January 16, 2026 @11:19AM (#46648130)
In other words, the current system allows a select few artists to make money/fame from doing something they want to do (opposed to have to do to make a living). Or also, AI music will lessen the good feeling some people get when they believe that musicians can make money producing music.

I don't disagree that these things exist, but I do believe that these are mostly propped up by dynamics that will soon no longer exist.

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @11:37AM (#46648386)
> Or also, AI music will lessen the good feeling some people get when they believe that musicians can make money producing music.

If that is your way of saying that AI will remove the possibility for humans to create music full time due to there being no money anymore in music then sure.

> I don't disagree that these things exist, but I do believe that these are mostly propped up by dynamics that will soon no longer exist.

Which are?

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by bitshiftfaced on Friday January 16, 2026 @11:55AM (#46648622)
The same dynamic that propped up blacksmiths, potters, tailors, etc.: the absense of scaling/automating technology. There is still demand for authentic artisanal crafts and the "good feeling" that these people can earn money, but the magnitude has been reduced to the farmer's markets.

I can see a similar thing playing out with music. There will still be some token demand, but people will not pay the same when they can have a magic, infinitely producing on-demand, tailored-to-their-taste music machine, at vanishingly small marginal costs.

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @01:41PM (#46650197)
I would agree with your analysis but the conclusion you make of your analysis is that this is a good thing?
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by bitshiftfaced on Friday January 16, 2026 @02:07PM (#46650668)
Just a realistic thing. Or, a good thing for consumers, a bad thing for producers (and a bad thing for producers who are actually consumers in disguise of a desired lifestyle and/or status).
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @02:45PM (#46651191)
It's only realistic if you let it happen.

Good for consumers is highly debatable since we'd lose one more social connection in life. Something we are running a very high debt tab for already.

We would also lose musical knowledge since all the full-time musicians would have to stop playing. Only amateur musicians would remain.

And the "desired lifestyle" / "desired status" would be transferred to the already very, very rich and powerful AI company CEOs. Such an improvement ...

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by pawelduda on Friday January 16, 2026 @11:10AM (#46648004)
Looking at the surface, it is true, but there are caveats:

- Not all musicians are in the field because it pays, some of them haven't earned a cent

- There are talented people who would like to create music but are forced to work long hours, which leaves them drained. Perhaps in the future, humans won't have to work that much, which will allow them to pursue creative hobbies such as music making

- Artists will be able to continue performing live, which will act as a huge filter for the AI-generated content and keep paying them.

Aside from that I agree, though musicians just one of many groups disrupted by AI and I wouldn't say they'll be the ones hurt most by it, mostly because they can continue to "exist" outside of the Internet, and experiencing music live could become more popular because of it. A lot of assumptions here, I know

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @11:15AM (#46648079)
> Perhaps in the future, humans won't have to work that much,

I think that this is the fairytale part that I have trouble accepting.

Coming from a country that has a very limited social welfare system I don't believe that the political or social climate is adapted to take such steps in a future where a lot of things are automated.

It goes against everything that we've seen in the last 150 years.

> Artists will be able to continue performing live, which will act as a huge filter for the AI-generated content and keep paying them.

Or AI "musicians" will play live events as holograms.

> Aside from that I agree, though musicians just one of many groups disrupted by AI and I wouldn't say they'll be the ones hurt most by it, mostly because they can continue to "exist" outside of the Internet, and experiencing music live could become more popular behind it.

Sure, they might not be the most affected by AI, but they would still be affected which is the reason I'm not a fan of AI in music. This pushback doesn't need to be reserved to the most impacted activities.

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by obsoleetorr on Friday January 16, 2026 @10:29AM (#46647378)
so?

agriculture is made by tractors now. should we ban them and return to the plow?

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @10:38AM (#46647512)
Tractors increase efficiency and plowing is a manual task.

Music is art and musicians don't lack in efficiency.

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by RobotToaster on Friday January 16, 2026 @10:04AM (#46647067)
How is the war on cocaine going?
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @10:40AM (#46647548)
Not sure about the "war" part of it, but the rules in place make it so that most people don't have easy, legal and public access to cocaine but the very determined people can find it. That sounds like a good trade-off.

For AI music it would be the same. You could find it online on some shifty third-party websites or use some illegal model on your own hardware but in the end it will always represent a minority use case.

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by pawelduda on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:41AM (#46646813)
Recently, there was an outrage when "Claire Obscur: Expedition 33" grabbed record-breaking amount of game awards (deservingly so, it's an excellent game) and somehow it surfaced that some minor development placeholder assets (which devs forgot to replace with actual ones due to QA oversight) were AI generated. Suddenly the entire game became "AI slop" and even got some of the awards revoked.

A lot of people complaining are doing it just for the sake of complaining, because anti-AI virtue signaling nets them clout, meanwhile they will happily scroll entire timelines of edited photos, movies which are nothing else than fake reality "slop".

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by happytoexplain on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:42AM (#46646821)
You're inventing groups of people composed of the worst qualities of your "enemies" and insisting they are large in number, based on nothing. This is common low-quality internet "those people" complaining - the polar opposite of giving the benefit of the doubt.

People generally have nuanced opinions not represented solely by whatever Tweets are popular, and this is true of basically every single topic.

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by pawelduda on Friday January 16, 2026 @10:12AM (#46647146)
"Enemies" is your word, not mine. I would say "hypocrisy" is a better fit. A pinch of AI content is bad, while photoshopping/postprocessing/etc. is normalized. It's all converging into the same thing, only the process is different

There is a difference between an AI critic who dislikes the AI output based on their sense of taste/aesthetic/soullessness and someone who likes something until they learn that there's 0.0001% of AI content in it, which suddenly turns it into abomination. I agree that the latter tends to be the louder group, but it is a group nonetheless and I clearly did not invent jumping on a bandwagon.

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by techpression on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:46AM (#46646863)
Considering how cheap and easy it is to buy views/likes/subscribers I wouldn’t trust it blindly. Somehow I feel that people pushing AI music also would game the system, but I don’t have any proof unfortunately.
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by reaperducer on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:33AM (#46646732)
Doesn't topping a popularity chart mean that it was "good" at least to many people?

So we should start awarding Michelin stars to McDonald's?

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by sejje on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:48AM (#46646873)
If you wanted to explain why McDonald's was so popular, you would have to compliment the product a lot, or lie.
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @10:44AM (#46647609)
If "complimenting the product" means: "a lot of fat, a lot of sugar, relatively low price, relatively fast order fulfilment", then sure.
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by Am4TIfIsER0ppos on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:38AM (#46646783)
We don't they have their judges so it's more like the oscars: an industry award
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by timeon on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:35AM (#46646751)
I can imagine generating AI song for myself but streaming usually seems like hell (algorithms, needs to be online, surveillance, lock-in, subscriptions).
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by dist-epoch on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:26AM (#46646654)
How about we let the consumers decide what they want to listen to. Right? Or are you afraid of what the consumers might like and thus preemptively want to strike.
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by happytoexplain on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:28AM (#46646669)
We can protect people's livelihoods and the foundations of creativity without making it illegal to distribute or listen to AI music in any way. You're being dramatic. Nobody is being oppressed.
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by LunaSea on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:36AM (#46646768)
I'll answer with the same comment as I did above: cocaine is a popular consumer choice, should we allow, maybe even encourage it?
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by JohnFen on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:52AM (#46646920)
> How about we let the consumers decide what they want to listen to.

Nobody is impeding that.

Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by saghm on Friday January 16, 2026 @09:35AM (#46646748)
Do you think that listening to music that isn't on charts is somehow impossible?
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by plagiarist on Friday January 16, 2026 @10:11AM (#46647134)
It's being removed from an industry chart, not being banned from their devices. If you love freedom so much why don't you support the industry and the chart to make their own decisions?
Re:Song banned from Swedish charts for being AI creation by ndsipa_pomu on Saturday January 17, 2026 @07:03AM (#46657367)
Banning AI-produced music is surely an attempt to let consumers continue to decide what they want to listen to. The alternative is that music charts all get flooded with huge amounts of AI-generated music and finding actually good music will be like searching for a needle in a haystack.