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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by j-krieger on Friday January 09, 2026 @04:15PM (#46559454)
No I can't, since I lack the monetary funds. My claim stands corrected, the going to the federal constitutional court is expensive enough that many people are barred from that option. My claim stands correct - no judicial verdict is needed for the CUII to censor websites. Don't believe me. Believe the activists [1].

[1]: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-cuii-wie-konzerne-heimlich-webse...

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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Friday January 09, 2026 @05:11PM (#46560114)
new comment: you're so wrong that not even the opposite of your statement would be true. CUII is a private body, but it forces its members to go to court before they ask CUII to initiate a block:

Jede DNS-Sperre einer strukturell urheberrechtsverletzenden Webseite (SUW) wird im Rahmen der CUII gerichtlich überprüft.

Das ist freiwillige Selbstverpflichtung der CUII-Mitglieder. Denn eigentlich besteht kein Richtervorbehalt für die Sperransprüche nach § 8 Digitale-Dienste-Gesetz (DDG). Aus diesem Grund sind auch die DNS-Sperren nach dem alten Verhaltenskodex mit behördlicher Beteiligung zulässig gewesen (Siehe Fragen: “Was verändert sich durch den neuen Verhaltenskodex der CUII?” und “Warum gab es zum Juli 2025 - nach jahrelanger Arbeit - einen Systemwechsel in der CUII?”).

old comment: CUII is not a governmental body so what the hell should they need a court order for when doing the thing that their members pay them to do? If your not happy with your internet access provider being a member of CUII, switch your internet access provider. I agree that CUII should publish a list of blocked domains as part of transparent communication and proving that they are doing a good job.

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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by j-krieger on Friday January 09, 2026 @05:19PM (#46560226)
Why should a private entity control what people see online?
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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Friday January 09, 2026 @06:03PM (#46560653)
Why should you - a private entity - control what content other people have to serve you?
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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by j-krieger on Friday January 09, 2026 @06:52PM (#46561051)
ISPs act as gatekeepers for essential information. When they control what flows, they’re effectively regulating speech.
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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Sunday January 11, 2026 @06:29AM (#46574686)
I'm ready to discuss this as soon as we're speaking about essential information and not about your urge to access other people's work for free.
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