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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Friday January 09, 2026 @03:24PM (#46558824)
Posting it a hundred times doesn't make your claim more correct. If your rights are infringed, you can always go to court. If you think your right to access certain information is an infringement of Art. 2 Abs. 1 GG ("Every person shall have the right to free development of his personality [...]"), you can drag this to The Federal Constitutional Court.
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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by j-krieger on Friday January 09, 2026 @04:15PM (#46559454)
No I can't, since I lack the monetary funds. My claim stands corrected, the going to the federal constitutional court is expensive enough that many people are barred from that option. My claim stands correct - no judicial verdict is needed for the CUII to censor websites. Don't believe me. Believe the activists [1].

[1]: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-cuii-wie-konzerne-heimlich-webse...

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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Friday January 09, 2026 @05:11PM (#46560114)
new comment: you're so wrong that not even the opposite of your statement would be true. CUII is a private body, but it forces its members to go to court before they ask CUII to initiate a block:

Jede DNS-Sperre einer strukturell urheberrechtsverletzenden Webseite (SUW) wird im Rahmen der CUII gerichtlich überprüft.

Das ist freiwillige Selbstverpflichtung der CUII-Mitglieder. Denn eigentlich besteht kein Richtervorbehalt für die Sperransprüche nach § 8 Digitale-Dienste-Gesetz (DDG). Aus diesem Grund sind auch die DNS-Sperren nach dem alten Verhaltenskodex mit behördlicher Beteiligung zulässig gewesen (Siehe Fragen: “Was verändert sich durch den neuen Verhaltenskodex der CUII?” und “Warum gab es zum Juli 2025 - nach jahrelanger Arbeit - einen Systemwechsel in der CUII?”).

old comment: CUII is not a governmental body so what the hell should they need a court order for when doing the thing that their members pay them to do? If your not happy with your internet access provider being a member of CUII, switch your internet access provider. I agree that CUII should publish a list of blocked domains as part of transparent communication and proving that they are doing a good job.

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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by j-krieger on Friday January 09, 2026 @05:19PM (#46560226)
Why should a private entity control what people see online?
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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Friday January 09, 2026 @06:03PM (#46560653)
Why should you - a private entity - control what content other people have to serve you?
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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by j-krieger on Friday January 09, 2026 @06:52PM (#46561051)
ISPs act as gatekeepers for essential information. When they control what flows, they’re effectively regulating speech.
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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Sunday January 11, 2026 @06:29AM (#46574686)
I'm ready to discuss this as soon as we're speaking about essential information and not about your urge to access other people's work for free.
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