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Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by pie_flavor on Friday January 09, 2026 @03:36PM (#46558994)
Because when you don't do this, people get scammed out of money.

If there is a series of buttons you can press to circumvent the anti-scam measures, then the scammers simply walk you through pressing those buttons. If you cover them in giant warning labels the scammers simply add explanations into their patter. The buttons must physically not exist, for gullible people to not get scammed out of money.

The next response will be 'well maybe we shouldn't accommodate them'. They vote, and there's more of them than you.

Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by lxgr on Friday January 09, 2026 @04:16PM (#46559464)
> Because when you don't do this, people get scammed out of money.

No, only when you don't do this and nothing else to improve security. You're presenting a false dichotomy.

> If there is a series of buttons you can press to circumvent the anti-scam measures, then the scammers simply walk you through pressing those buttons.

If the scammers can walk somebody through doing all that, why would they stop at just asking them to send money over to them "to safekeep it because of a compromised account" or whatever the social engineering scheme of the week is?

Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by LorenPechtel on Friday January 09, 2026 @04:08PM (#46559353)
Or rig screens such that the buttons do not appear to be what they are. I've seen many a install-this-app ads where cancel isn't cancel.

The average user simply does not have the skill to determine real from fake and any heuristics to do so will be defeated by the scammers. You have to be able to understand what could be done with access, not what's "intended" with the access.

Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by thewebguyd on Friday January 09, 2026 @04:55PM (#46559933)
> If there is a series of buttons you can press to circumvent the anti-scam measures, then the scammers simply walk you through pressing those buttons. If you cover them in giant warning labels the scammers simply add explanations into their patter. The buttons must physically not exist, for gullible people to not get scammed out of money.

We shouldn't be protecting someone that gullible at the expense of everyone else who is smart enough to actually read whats on the screen and not fall for such simple scams.

Not that long ago most of this forum was very much against giving up freedoms in favor of catering to the lowest common denominator. What happened?

People need to take responsibility for their own actions and educate themselves, not rely on a lack of freedom to protect them.

Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by skylurk on Friday January 09, 2026 @07:27PM (#46561309)
> We shouldn't be protecting someone that gullible

My uncle, an engineer, was scammed out of his life savings last year. He was a smart guy, he just got older.

Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by AlexeyBelov on Sunday January 11, 2026 @06:25AM (#46574647)
Well, not very smart.
Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by skylurk on Monday January 12, 2026 @05:09AM (#46586380)
Really makes me hope my heart cuts out before my mind does.
Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by bigstrat2003 on Friday January 09, 2026 @05:10PM (#46560098)
> Because when you don't do this, people get scammed out of money.

I don't care. Society doesn't exist to keep people safe from their own bad decisions.

Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by sneak on Friday January 09, 2026 @05:33PM (#46560383)
I agree with you, but many do not. Lots of people think that is one of the main functions of society.

Regardless, it isn’t a law that you have to buy an iPhone.

Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by petterroea on Saturday January 10, 2026 @12:51AM (#46563151)
One of the benefits or downsides of a government depending on who you ask is that it can help stop people from making bad decisions that hurt people around them. Bad decisions rarely hurt only one person.
Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by pie_flavor on Sunday January 11, 2026 @08:11PM (#46582493)
They represent more of the customer base, and a larger voting bloc, than tech nerds. You can offer your opinion of what society exists for, and the rest of society doesn't have to listen to it. The only actual leverage tech nerds who aren't billionaires have is when the particular ones who work for Google are asked to implement these features.
Re:The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from usin... by soraminazuki on Friday January 09, 2026 @08:06PM (#46561591)
> Because when you don't do this, people get scammed out of money.

Bullshit. Big tech's war on general purpose computing hasn't stopped scam. It's a pretext for rent seeking and control and you know it. It's the reason we don't have a popular ecosystem of FOSS alternatives on mobile. It's the reason we can't run virtual machines on tablets when the hardware very much can.

If combating scam is a priority of big tech, I know where to start. Get rid of ads!

> If there is a series of buttons you can press to circumvent the anti-scam measures

So the best you can come up with is an imaginary button on phones that can magically circumvent checks that should be implemented server-side? Have you any idea how software works?