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Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by simlevesque on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @12:54PM (#46529793)
I didn't ask how to do a bait and switch to offer a good free product and later ask for more money or else I'm going to make it worse. But I guess nuance is hard to understand.

Also it's always funny when someone tries to look up your past instead of giving convincing arguments.

Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by jstummbillig on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:11PM (#46530118)
Arguments for... somebody wanting to get paid for their work? What are you doing?
Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by simlevesque on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:15PM (#46530190)
Normally you ask for payment upfront, not years after.
Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by jstummbillig on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:52PM (#46530752)
Who got asked to pay years after...? After what?

Best read: You are confusing different products. Somebody can do two things and get paid for only one of them.

Worst read: You are really trying to confuse them.

Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by patates on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:54PM (#46530788)
Nobody is asked for money years after they started using Tailwind. Nobody is being asked for money now, when they start using Tailwind.
Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by orthecreedence on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:59PM (#46530873)
So fork and offer your better free version. Holy fuck. What's with this persistent attitude that open source creators should slave away for free forever?

Either you support an economy where everyone gets a meager living wage just for existing and then once that's established you can complain about people trying to make money off open source, or you say "capitalism as it exists is great" and swallow the fact that people who you don't pay don't work for you. Which is it?

Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by doganugurlu on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @02:19PM (#46531138)
Once you give it for free, you must work for free forever!

/s

Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by w4yai on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @04:49PM (#46533501)
Please, just admit you're wrong. It's ok.
Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by wongarsu on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @03:17PM (#46531944)
But nobody is making tailwind worse. After closing this PR it is exactly as good as it was before the PR was opened
Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by bkorte on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:25PM (#46530352)
There is no bait and switch and it's ridiculous to suggest there is.

They have a free product and a paid product. They've used the documentation as an awareness channel for the paid product. The paid product influences and pays for the free product. A tail as old as time.

They're not asking you to buy the paid product and they're not saying they are going to make it worse. Did you even read thread? He literally says "I totally see the value in the feature and I would like to find a way to add it."

Not prioritizing it now does not make the product worse, it just doesn't make it better in this particular way today.

How is this hard to understand?

Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by harryday on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:57PM (#46530844)
> A tail as old as time.

Eggcorn klaxon!

Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by krainboltgreene on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:09PM (#46530084)
Here's a convincing argument: Pay me for some of my labor or you stop getting labor at all.
Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by simlevesque on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:12PM (#46530123)
Don't tell me you're giving me something for free in the first place then. It's simple.
Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by patates on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:59PM (#46530872)
This attitude really tires open source maintainers enormously. They are not allowed to earn money connected to the thing they are giving away for free?

I know there may have been some weird stuff going on lately (nginx, redis, etc.) but this is not one of them.

It's okay to be confused, but please do not continue this.

Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by sb8244 on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @03:33PM (#46532192)
This breaks down because Tailwind is not monetized, is completely free, and hasn't indicated it won't be.

There is a corporate side with other features that has never been free. I pay for it because it's great.

I'm not sure if you're purposefully misstating it at this point or not. Several people have corrected you and you seem to double down incorrectly each time.

Re:Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team by delfinom on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @04:47PM (#46533457)
That's not a bait and switch my dude, lmao. Bait and switch only applies when the initial price is something other than $0 but still low.