News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Still no Windows Phone 8 SDK by cooldeal on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @11:07AM (#4636623)
Microsoft had already announced previously that the SDK will be out at WP8 launch, there will be 100K+ WP7 apps available in the store at launch. The API and dev tools went through a huge shift from Win CE as the kernel in WP7 to the NT kernel in WP8. It makes more sense to launch when it's ready instead of rushing it out to meet a deadline.

So the "two weeks away, still no SDK" is just trolling for page hits, and unfortunately getting them.

Re:Still no Windows Phone 8 SDK by katabatic on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @11:29AM (#4636742)
Actually, there has not really been a huge shift in the API or the dev tools.

Yes, there is a new native layer called "Windows Phone Runtime", which is a partial, semi-overlapping subset of the Windows Runtime found in Windows 8.

However, it's partial and incomplete, and mostly targeted at game developers - to access most of the features of Windows Phone 8, you need to write your apps in a managed language, accessing the .NET API for Windows Phone, which is pretty much the same as it's always been, with a few minor incompatibilities, even in so-called "compatibility mode" for WP7 apps.

EDIT: That was a hideous run-on sentence, but I kinda like it.

Re:Still no Windows Phone 8 SDK by cooldeal on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @12:10PM (#4636934)
>Actually, there has not really been a huge shift in the API or the dev tools.

I had meant dev tools as in the API and SDK code written by Microsoft. There is no big change in the app developer facing dev tools, but internally the kernel has shifted, thus Microsoft developers needed to port the same API to a different kernel, so that's what I meant by a big change.

Re:Still no Windows Phone 8 SDK by katabatic on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @12:17PM (#4636971)
Ah, gotcha - I misunderstood what you meant there.

I've seen the current state of the SDK and API, and while I understand porting to a new kernel was probably a lot of work for them, it makes even less sense considering that most of the WinRT APIs available in Win8 are not there in WP8 - it leaves me wondering what, exactly, they hoped to gain; so far it doesn't seem like a win for developers, and you can't write a full-featured native app for WP8. Maybe you'll be able to for WP9 (if the platform survives that long).

Re:Still no Windows Phone 8 SDK by adjwilli on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @11:23AM (#4636702)
Agreed, ExtremeTech is not my favorite news source. Their atrocious mobile interface reflects their editorial stance, all style and no substance
Re:Still no Windows Phone 8 SDK by jpro on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @11:25AM (#4636714)
I also am sensing ExtremeTech has a vendetta against MS.
Re:Still no Windows Phone 8 SDK by freehunter on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @11:35AM (#4636781)
They're the Sun or Fox News or TMZ of tech journalism. Controversy sells, and they do business.
Re:Still no Windows Phone 8 SDK by tomrod on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @11:16AM (#4636677)
I agree. Smells fishy.
Re:Still no Windows Phone 8 SDK by sukuriant on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @11:49AM (#4636843)
ack, didn't mean to downvote you