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Re:Ultrasound Cancer Treatment: Sound Waves Fight Tumors by flir on Monday December 22, 2025 @05:26PM (#46359904)
If it was true, couldn't you get the same effect by taking a biopsy, fragmenting the cells, and injecting them back in? Like a vaccination, in fact. Somebody must have studied that approach already.
Re:Ultrasound Cancer Treatment: Sound Waves Fight Tumors by klipt on Monday December 22, 2025 @07:44PM (#46361092)
Cancer immunotherapy is a whole field of research and treatment, yes.
Re:Ultrasound Cancer Treatment: Sound Waves Fight Tumors by londons_explore on Monday December 22, 2025 @07:09PM (#46360835)
I assume the immune system probably already reacts to this in a specific way. For example, a major bruise has a lot of broken up cells, but doesn't warrant a big immune response.
Re:Ultrasound Cancer Treatment: Sound Waves Fight Tumors by cowsandmilk on Monday December 22, 2025 @06:15PM (#46360385)
Major damage tends to cause a much larger immune response than a vaccination. That said, they do have therapeutic cancer vaccines that present proteins from cancer (sometimes patient-specific) with adjuvants to help stimulate the immune response.
Re:Ultrasound Cancer Treatment: Sound Waves Fight Tumors by rincebrain on Tuesday December 23, 2025 @01:33AM (#46362974)
There were reports that if you inject the goo from melting the tumor into another mouse, that mouse became much more resistant to that class of tumor[1], so...

[1] - https://news.engin.umich.edu/2023/10/these-bubbles-kill-canc...

Re:Ultrasound Cancer Treatment: Sound Waves Fight Tumors by f6v on Tuesday December 23, 2025 @04:37AM (#46363848)
First issue is that tumors don't necessarily have to be highly immunogenic, e.g. there're tumors that don't present many neoantigens on the surface. This means immune cells can't easily recognize them. Second issue is that tumor microenvironment evolves to be immunosuppressive. There're many different signals that regulate immune cells activation and simply having antigen-specific cells isn't enough. But as someone said in a sister thread, what you're describing is a basis for multiple clinical trials that combine antigen release with immune activation.
Re:Ultrasound Cancer Treatment: Sound Waves Fight Tumors by amelius on Tuesday December 23, 2025 @04:44AM (#46363890)
Exactly my thought.