Re:Toxic Fumes on Planes Blamed for Deaths of Pilots and Crew
by AgentK20 on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:00PM
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Uh.....what planes are you on where you, the passenger, can simply "pull down the oxygen mask"? Also, wouldn't the P95 only help with particulates (e.g. soot), but not with the actual toxic fumes?
Re:Toxic Fumes on Planes Blamed for Deaths of Pilots and Crew
by janice1999 on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:15PM
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OP has no idea what he's talking about. Passengers masks are for depressurisation events and oxygen supplies last 15 minutes - enough time for the pilots to descend. Pilots have a separate longer lasting oxygen supply. In many (most older?) planes, a single passenger activating their mask will activate the chemical based oxygen supply that feeds all passenger masks.
Re:Toxic Fumes on Planes Blamed for Deaths of Pilots and Crew
by OutOfHere on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:05PM
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> but not with the actual toxic fumes?
3M 8577 has a bonus carbon layer for this purpose. Its protection is not complete, but can limit the damage. You should also carry spares in case the carbon layer is exhausted.
Re:Toxic Fumes on Planes Blamed for Deaths of Pilots and Crew
by AgentK20 on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:15PM
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Oh, very cool. TIL. Thanks!
Re:Toxic Fumes on Planes Blamed for Deaths of Pilots and Crew
by kubelsmieci on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:43PM
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How will you know that you should change mask?
Re:Toxic Fumes on Planes Blamed for Deaths of Pilots and Crew
by OutOfHere on Monday December 22, 2025 @01:02PM
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The mask itself starts to smell. You will start sneezing and also dripping from the nose, but this will stop if you remove or replace the mask.
Also, you start to smell the diesel fumes. The more you wear a clean mask, the more sensitive your nose becomes to mild fumes.
Re:Toxic Fumes on Planes Blamed for Deaths of Pilots and Crew
by tenuousemphasis on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:00PM
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I'd love to know what percentage of flights experience fume events to determine if it's a real problem I should worry about.
Re:Toxic Fumes on Planes Blamed for Deaths of Pilots and Crew
by OutOfHere on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:11PM
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For what it's worth, there is a very high number of harmful ultrafine particles in the air whenever a flight is taking off or landing, and also on the ground at the terminal. Most cases of exposure are just not acutely damaging to someone with normal lung function, but the damage absolutely accumulates. The heart in particular is no less sensitive to them than the lungs.
Re:Toxic Fumes on Planes Blamed for Deaths of Pilots and Crew
by ikekkdcjkfke on Monday December 22, 2025 @04:32PM
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I am starting to consider wearing one of those transparent space suit helmets with led lights inside ala prometheus movie. With gas mask grade air filtration considering influenza and people starting to burn their trash cause of inflation
Also, for multiple reasons, no one should fly without wearing a P95 or comparable or superior mask. You never know when smoke will hit. 3M 8577 is decent, with an essential bonus carbon layer. Place a disposable ASTM level 3 surgical mask on top too.
Note that an SpO2 finger meter can fail to recognize CO poisoning; it can be misleading with a false normal value.