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Re:Problems with D-Bus on the Linux desktop by 0x457 on Monday December 15, 2025 @05:54PM (#46282018)
Supported by whom? Xorg, the server, no longer maintained. Also, OpenBSD users already a tiny fraction of users...if every single OpenBSD desktop switches to Linux and Wayland, not a single metric will change significantly.
Re:Problems with D-Bus on the Linux desktop by chasil on Monday December 15, 2025 @06:26PM (#46282420)
OpenBSD also maintains OpenSSH, which has enormous market penetration.

Their ssh supports the -X and -Y options to run remote X applications.

Let me know when those go Wayland-specific and are able to encompass the new protocol.

Until then, get comfortable in a small and discardable minority.

Re:Problems with D-Bus on the Linux desktop by Conan_Kudo on Tuesday December 16, 2025 @02:56AM (#46285920)
The `-X` and `-Y` options were a mistake to integrate into `ssh(1)`, it makes an assumption that everybody uses an Athena/X11 type system. That said, you can combine waypipe with ssh to do the same thing (ie. `waypipe ssh` will give you the same effect as `ssh -X`).
Re:Problems with D-Bus on the Linux desktop by chasil on Tuesday December 16, 2025 @08:25AM (#46288225)
Until those options are integrated into OpenSSH itself, Wayland remains in the minority.
Re:Problems with D-Bus on the Linux desktop by esseph on Tuesday December 16, 2025 @10:03AM (#46289369)
I'm not sure this statement makes any sense.
Re:Problems with D-Bus on the Linux desktop by 0x457 on Wednesday December 17, 2025 @01:37PM (#46303578)
> Their ssh supports the -X and -Y options to run remote X applications.

Cool, I remember using it in 2003 a few times. I highly doubt many people going to miss if those were gone. I would not be surprised if the majority of ssh server installations disable x11 session forwarding.

> Until then, get comfortable in a small and discardable minority.

Are you sure you're not confusing Wayland users with OpenBSD users?

Re:Problems with D-Bus on the Linux desktop by bitwize on Monday December 15, 2025 @08:36PM (#46283642)
OpenBSD maintains its own Xorg fork, called Xenocara.