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Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by dachris on Friday December 12, 2025 @09:06AM (#46244264)
Its sister tunnel - the Semmering Base Tunnel [0] - is scheduled to be completed in 2030. These two combined greatly reduce the travel time from Vienna to Graz and Klagenfurt (combined 1h 15m time saving).

You don't hear that much about great engineering projects today, yet it's still an incredible feat to build those.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semmering_Base_Tunnel

Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by mikewarot on Friday December 12, 2025 @10:33AM (#46245075)
Holy cow... 16.7 Hertz[1] power?

At first that's a really odd sounding choice to this Hoosier. Turns out it's 1/3 of standard 50 Hz in Europe.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_kV_AC_railway_electrificati...

Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by ErroneousBosh on Friday December 12, 2025 @11:04AM (#46245397)
They actually used that in the US as well for railways. I remember a post years ago on the Classic Computer Mailing List from someone who said that their father had worked on the railways and pointed out that the "high bay" station lighting all ran off 3-phase 16.7Hz power. Apparently it looked okay at ground level but was quite disconcerting when you looked up and saw the lights flickering in patterns of three.
Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by MrFlynn on Friday December 12, 2025 @01:33PM (#46247141)
Early AC electrification systems in the US were typically 25Hz, not 16.7Hz. Parts of the northeast corridor still use 25Hz electrification.
Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by ErroneousBosh on Saturday December 13, 2025 @04:38AM (#46253315)
I'm trying to find the post, but it was definitely 16.7Hz. I don't know that it was particularly "early" as such, probably the 1950s or so.
Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by usr1106 on Saturday December 13, 2025 @03:16AM (#46252998)
It used to be exactly one third, i.e 16 2/3 so you can have generators on the same axle. However, being exactly one third caused unwanted resonance effects. So with the advent of power electronics it has been slightly shifted to 16.7 Hz. Within tolerance for the motors, but no unwanted resonance anymore.

My high school physics is not sufficient to really understand it.

Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by ekjhgkejhgk on Friday December 12, 2025 @09:09AM (#46244290)
> You don't hear that much about great engineering projects today

Here's a great engineering project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_test_tunnel

Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by MattRix on Friday December 12, 2025 @09:17AM (#46244351)
is it though?
Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by groestl on Friday December 12, 2025 @09:20AM (#46244375)
I guess sarcasm.
Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by ekjhgkejhgk on Friday December 12, 2025 @11:28AM (#46245678)
;-)
Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by jimnotgym on Friday December 12, 2025 @03:15PM (#46248317)
Serious question about hyperloop trains running in a vacuum. How do you cool the carriages?
Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by sawjet on Saturday December 13, 2025 @02:45AM (#46252863)
The tunnels aren't perfect vacuums
Re:After 27 years within budget Austria open 6thlongest rail... by jimnotgym on Sunday December 14, 2025 @04:16AM (#46261834)
That doesn't help me, I'm afraid. It must be low enough pressure to allow lower air resistance on the train, so must be a significant vacuum. Even if not a perfect vacuum, the carriage can presumably not exchange air with it, since the carriage is at a higher pressure. If you used aircon in the train the lower pressure air in the tunnel would be very poor at convecting heat away?