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Re:Lot of software engineers don't understand basic networking by wiz21c on Friday December 12, 2025 @07:49AM (#46243638)
Lots of network engineer don't understand the usefulness of a stack trace.

IOW: when my network fails "No route to host", I want to know who failed and why. Not just "hey, start the route tool on your production sever which you don't have access to, to get to know who slipped"

Re:Lot of software engineers don't understand basic networking by freedomben on Friday December 12, 2025 @10:34AM (#46245077)
You're kind of proving the articles point here. The networking stack doesn't surface that information to your code, because it doesn't have that information. To get that information, The various tools do a lot of extra things that don't typically happen on a normal network connection. This is kind of the like complaining that your typical release build stack trace doesn't also include profiling and debug information in it.
Re:Lot of software engineers don't understand basic networking by compressedgas on Friday December 12, 2025 @07:24AM (#46243467)
I was expecting examples. There were none.
Re:Lot of software engineers don't understand basic networking by webdev1234568 on Friday December 12, 2025 @08:53AM (#46244155)
Just another AI blog post.. moving on.
Re:Lot of software engineers don't understand basic networking by 9rx on Friday December 12, 2025 @10:27AM (#46245010)
Stands to reason. It is all abstracted away.

I used to understand networking in decent detail, but now many years later I've forgotten most of it.

Re:Lot of software engineers don't understand basic networking by mikestew on Friday December 12, 2025 @10:31AM (#46245061)
Kind of a crap article that seems to be a thrown-together reading list. The subtitle promises more than TFA delivers.
Re:Lot of software engineers don't understand basic networking by rrgok on Friday December 12, 2025 @10:53AM (#46245281)
Here you go again. Software engineers don't understand UX/UI, Sales, Customers, Networking, Technical Writings, Communication, Business Needs...

Yeah well, since you other people understand everything why don't you start developing your damn software yourselves as you please?

Re:Lot of software engineers don't understand basic networking by _se on Friday December 12, 2025 @11:17AM (#46245563)
AI slop garbage
Re:Lot of software engineers don't understand basic networking by ectospheno on Friday December 12, 2025 @12:46PM (#46246555)
Regardless of any shortcomings in the article the general point is valid. Ask your new college grads any networking question beyond the C API and the answers you will receive will amuse and frighten you. I blame most CS curriculums basically dropping networking from required course load. One of the many learn on the job subjects for new hires is inevitably basic networking.