Re:37signals Losing Lustre? Why I Miss The Adoring Fans (sim...
by pg on Friday August 24, 2007 @01:04PM
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YC tried highrise. It is not good. I actually went to the trouble of telling Fried what seemed broken about it, and got back a reply saying everybody else loved it, so I must be wrong.
Re:37signals Losing Lustre? Why I Miss The Adoring Fans (sim...
by rami on Friday August 24, 2007 @03:54PM
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According to their book, they don't listen to feedback!
"That's why you start with no. Every new feature request that comes to us -- or from us -- meets a no. We listen but don't act. The initial response is "not now." If a request for a feature keeps coming back, that's when we know it's time to take a deeper look. Then, and only then, do we start considering the feature for real."
Re:37signals Losing Lustre? Why I Miss The Adoring Fans (sim...
by pg on Friday August 24, 2007 @04:47PM
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I can't remember very precisely. One problem was that we couldn't create a contact without a first name. Another was that it took so many keystrokes to add a new contact. I think another was that you could only see a few per page.
Re:37signals Losing Lustre? Why I Miss The Adoring Fans (sim...
by ragaskar on Friday August 24, 2007 @02:30PM
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my current company still finds basecamp a valuable tool, but that's because we're not large enough to have someone doing fulltime project management. Of course, we don't need anything beyond a glorified to-do list -- which is good, because that's pretty much basecamp's core competency.
Re:37signals Losing Lustre? Why I Miss The Adoring Fans (sim...
by brianmckenzie on Friday August 24, 2007 @02:51PM
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I'm still using Basecamp for some stuff, it's pretty good for distributed teams. I tried Backpack, though, and it has seemed to actually make my life more difficult.
Re:37signals Losing Lustre? Why I Miss The Adoring Fans (sim...
by r7000 on Friday August 24, 2007 @02:40PM
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Fair enough. Perhaps my first sentence would have been better on its own.
I don't think it is unreasonable to note a disconnect between the article's title and the content. I guess I was hoping for something more substantial. Maybe, an educated opinion on highrise vs. earlier products.
Saying something is getting less buzz/blog-hype over time could be said about almost anything.
Re:37signals Losing Lustre? Why I Miss The Adoring Fans (sim...
by run4yourlives on Friday August 24, 2007 @02:50PM
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Good point, but it's still an interesting observation. 37signals was everywhere in 2006, and now, not so much.
I'm not sure how that translates to anything meaningful, or whether it's just that their message has been received by the audience already.
Personally, I think they have reached a work threshold for their team. They haven't expanded all that much from the original core group, (not that they want to) but they've increased the products they service. There are only so many hours in a day.
I'm actually interested in seeing what happens to them in terms of their "keep it small" mantra and the obvious desire - and need, considering their marketing prowess - to introduce new products.
There's a fine line between having opinionated software and having stubborn software that doesn't respond to user feedback.
"That's why you start with no. Every new feature request that comes to us -- or from us -- meets a no. We listen but don't act. The initial response is "not now." If a request for a feature keeps coming back, that's when we know it's time to take a deeper look. Then, and only then, do we start considering the feature for real."
Isn't "link spam" what the blogosphere is all about? The guy's sharing an opinion, and being familiar with this blog, and educated one at that.
Enough with this ridiculous accusation already.
I don't think it is unreasonable to note a disconnect between the article's title and the content. I guess I was hoping for something more substantial. Maybe, an educated opinion on highrise vs. earlier products.
Saying something is getting less buzz/blog-hype over time could be said about almost anything.
I'm not sure how that translates to anything meaningful, or whether it's just that their message has been received by the audience already.
Personally, I think they have reached a work threshold for their team. They haven't expanded all that much from the original core group, (not that they want to) but they've increased the products they service. There are only so many hours in a day.
I'm actually interested in seeing what happens to them in terms of their "keep it small" mantra and the obvious desire - and need, considering their marketing prowess - to introduce new products.
Seriously though, you are touching some key points here.