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Re:NYC congestion pricing cuts air pollution by a fifth in s... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday December 09, 2025 @10:44PM (#46213819)
Isn’t it the opposite though? The poor aren’t able to live in the most popular busiest areas, and usually have to live on the fringes of the city. They might train in though. This is mostly going to benefit the rich people who can still afford to live in the city, but with rent control there are still some non-rich people in the city.
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Re:NYC congestion pricing cuts air pollution by a fifth in s... by CGMthrowaway on Tuesday December 09, 2025 @11:22PM (#46214061)
It is both. People forget that probably a third of all housing in the congestion zone is rent-controlled or public housing.

Half of households in the congestion zone are living at or below 3x federal poverty level ($70K for a family of three). One in six residents makes $20K or less a year.

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Re:NYC congestion pricing cuts air pollution by a fifth in s... by sysguest on Wednesday December 10, 2025 @01:17AM (#46214663)
well it's not 100% this or that -- it's mixed up

really-rich people don't have to work/commute, so prefer to live in countryside with gardens

really-poor people can't afford cars, and rich(=busy) cities usually have accomodations for them -- so they live inside busy cities

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Re:NYC congestion pricing cuts air pollution by a fifth in s... by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday December 10, 2025 @02:11AM (#46214981)
Really poor people can’t afford cars in the city, and yes, they can exist in the city because of public housing snd rent control. And it really isn’t the cars that are expensive, or even operating the cars, but the parking.

There are lots of middle class commuters who can’t afford to live in the city: they aren’t lucky enough to win the lottery with a rent controlled unit, and are too rich to live in public housing, but still too poor to live in housing of a standard they can tolerate in the city even if their job is there.

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