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Re:All it takes is for one to work out by jbs789 on Saturday November 29, 2025 @04:54PM (#46091141)
If you don’t have a fall back, you have no choice but to make it work.
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by WJW on Saturday November 29, 2025 @06:39PM (#46091920)
And if making it by hoping really really hard doesn't work, try suicide or something?
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by JustExAWS on Saturday November 29, 2025 @05:16PM (#46091308)
Or fail miserably…
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by fragmede on Saturday November 29, 2025 @05:39PM (#46091470)
Which we don't hear about. Except maybe via GoFundMe.
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by bbarnett on Saturday November 29, 2025 @05:41PM (#46091484)
You know what?

Peter used to say, that every successful company could look back at a defining moment early on, where they would have died had it not been for the courage, and the tenacity, and maybe the insanity of one visionary person who put it all on the line, even though it seemed like a huge mistake at the time.

A moment where all the metrics and the numbers didn't mean anything.

It was all about the emotion. It was about belief, rational or irrational.

And I think...

I hope that I just witnessed that.

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by raw_anon_1111 on Saturday November 29, 2025 @05:58PM (#46091613)
On the other hand, no matter what you do, you can’t invest like Warren Buffett.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/11/19/why-you-...

The whole idea of succeeding by “grit” makes way too many people too idealistic and unrealistic.

Don’t get me wrong, Peter Drucker (hopefully that’s the Peter you are referring to) had some great actionable advice. But believing in yourself and having grit is about as banal as “thoughts and prayers”

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by anukin on Sunday November 30, 2025 @12:17PM (#46098491)
I hope it’s Peter drucker instead of Peter griffin
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by toss1 on Saturday November 29, 2025 @06:04PM (#46091659)
You know what? This is indeed where courage, tenacity, and risk-taking make a difference.

But what makes the difference in whether or not we hear about it is pure luck and survivor bias.

If their luck was just right that with all that push in the right time the deal came through or the product sold, then we hear about what a great success it was, and how important was their grit.

And many smart determined people with all the courage, tenacity, and risk-taking in the world have also taken the big risk, but dice did not roll their way, or the hill was just so steep it didn't work, so we hear nothing of them. And their number likely vastly exceeds the few for whom it did work.

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by WalterBright on Sunday November 30, 2025 @12:13AM (#46093996)
At one point in Tesla's path, Musk was down to a net worth of $200k or so. He laid his entire fortune on the line. How many of us would be willing to do that? Not me.
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by jdiff on Sunday November 30, 2025 @12:44AM (#46094177)
Is that courage or ketamine? I'm not sure there's anything aspirational there, or just a huge streak of vanity. Just look at all the plastic surgery.
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by WalterBright on Sunday November 30, 2025 @01:04AM (#46094264)
If you think taking drugs is the key to success, well, it's not a path I'd try.
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by jdiff on Sunday November 30, 2025 @11:50AM (#46098227)
I did say, "I'm not sure there's anything aspirational there."

But clearly it does have a chance at success, as evidenced by Elon. Or, as it always turns out, it's difficult to fail anywhere but up when you're wealthy.

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by WalterBright on Sunday November 30, 2025 @02:39PM (#46099686)
Always? Why aren't there more trillionaires?

The usual arc is the first generation makes it, the second spends it, and the third is back in the middle class.

Clearly? He's probably drunk some alcohol. Does that mean alcohol is clearly the path to success?

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by jdiff on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:43PM (#46102937)
This is distorting my words in such tiny, pedantic, strawmanful ways I don't see a point in replying properly. I'm clearly not going to be the person to break through your illusion.
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by Teever on Monday December 01, 2025 @08:48PM (#46116338)
Honestly it's probably just best to flag a comment like this without replying and move on.

Walter isn't some quarter wit user who doesn't know that he's doing here.

He's posting trash and getting away with it because of his reputation.

It's dismaying.

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by venturecruelty on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @05:42PM (#46141281)
Thank you for calling this out. I'm shocked it doesn't happen more often. It really ought to.
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by Teever on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @07:47PM (#46142414)
It should but it won't because people on here have developed a parasocial relationship with Walter and he's become a sort of minor celebrity on HN.

I mentioned this to Dang recently[0] and he's ambivalent about it.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45610620#45637851

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by tomhow on Thursday December 04, 2025 @12:33AM (#46144132)
In that discussion you seemed to agree that there's not much we can or should do about it; you seemed to be indicating that you were just contemplating the phenomenon, rather than complaining or arguing that something needed to be done.

For what it's worth: the “celebrity” effect works both ways. Sure, some members of the community may be more willing to give them a pass. But other users will be more motivated to downvote and/or flag, even if the comment is relatively benign.

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by raw_anon_1111 on Sunday November 30, 2025 @05:13AM (#46095427)
At a young age and knowing I could easily get a job and rebuild? Why not? $200K to get back is a year a two in Silicon Valley just working in a tech company.

By 2010 with a combination of divorce and over investing in real estate before the financial crisis I had a negative net worth of over $200K at 36 years old and absolutely no money in the bank. I really didn’t stress at all. They were just numbers.

I had a job, a home and parents who could help me out a little when needed mostly for unexpected expenses because my credit was also shot by 2013 with 5 foreclosures/short sales.

At 51, remarried for 15 years and grown (step)kids and working remotely, and a lot of other quality of life changes, we are good.

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by WalterBright on Sunday November 30, 2025 @02:40PM (#46099696)
Going from $200 million to $200 thousand in a few months is a terrifying drop.

No, you cannot make $200m overnight from $200g.

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by raw_anon_1111 on Sunday November 30, 2025 @02:45PM (#46099735)
The question was whether I would take a chance with my last $200K.
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by WalterBright on Sunday November 30, 2025 @02:50PM (#46099770)
Musk did. Most wouldn't.
Re:All it takes is for one to work out by raw_anon_1111 on Sunday November 30, 2025 @03:26PM (#46100077)
Young and knowing your future earning potential? That’s. I different than paying $200K for college. That’s only slightly more than the average new grad makes working at any of the BigTech companies their first year.

What else was he going to do? Hoard it in a High Yield Savings account?

Re:All it takes is for one to work out by wat10000 on Saturday November 29, 2025 @06:27PM (#46091823)
Cortez burning^Wscuttling his ships.