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Re:Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads fo... by whartung on Friday November 28, 2025 @01:17PM (#46081213)
To be fair, I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It was the first year of their then new model rollout for the GC. It was (as I understand it) the last of the Mercedes JGCs.

I love this thing, it's a "cold dead hands" kind of car for me. Only has 120k-ish miles on it.

I won't say it's my last car ever, I just have a hard time visualizing swapping it out for anything.

It starts, all the buttons work, it's cosmetically 95%. The single biggest issue is that last year it was down for a couple of months simply because of parts availability. It's not unreliable, but it's swapped a few things (water pump, radiator, A/C has had work twice, guess it's a bit notorious in the community). Purchased in 2013, it's a 12 year old car.

But waiting months for suspension components (air suspension, which I adore) was a real drag. Even with a dealer supplied rental.

That would be the thing that sends me over the edge long term, I think.

It'll be a shame when it happens, I love the car.

The dealer wants to buy it every time I take it in for routine maintenance.

Re:Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads fo... by sudonanohome on Friday November 28, 2025 @01:38PM (#46081438)
So your 12 yrs old truck with only 120k miles got:

- radiator replaced

- water pump replaced

- AC repaired (twice)

- suspension rebuilt

And that's considered to be a "good" truck? Good lord I'm happy we don't get such garbage sold here in Europe

Re:Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads fo... by genter on Friday November 28, 2025 @01:53PM (#46081574)
Yeah, it's not as if Mercedes (who made the vehicle he's talking about) or BMW are German.
Re:Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads fo... by sudonanohome on Friday November 28, 2025 @02:14PM (#46081797)
Mercedes or BMW don't sell "tough trucks" lol.

They sell luxury goods, which people know to avoid when they care about reliability

The thing is, jeeps are even beating the BMWs when it comes to unreliability.

Yes Mercedes built that garbage for the US market because US market eats that crap. Then stellantis took it a step up and removed reliability from their vocabulary entirely - more profitable that way. I'd pick a modern VW over American garbage all day any day.

But sure, keep yourself convinced about exceptionalism of American SUVs.

Re:Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads fo... by CGMthrowaway on Friday November 28, 2025 @03:32PM (#46082504)
>Mercedes or BMW don't sell "tough trucks" lol.

G-Wagon is body on frame

Re:Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads fo... by hluska on Friday November 28, 2025 @02:25PM (#46081912)
You don’t know much about cars. All the work they had done on their vehicle was typical for that model generation. Air suspensions are generally problematic because of constant wear mixed with parts issues, and A/C problems are common in that model generation. This is all normal stuff to fix over twelve years.
Re:Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads fo... by sudonanohome on Friday November 28, 2025 @04:44PM (#46083036)
I do most of the maintenance of cars in our garage, and I would never accept double AC repair, suspension and radiator replacement to be "normal" around 120k.

The thing is, modern jeeps are a joke even compared to this "reliable" example.

There was a post recently about over-the-air update bricking Jeeps WHILE DRIVING ON THE FUCKING HIGHWAY. And no one cares. People keep buying this trash and defend double AC repairs. ¯ \ _ ( ツ ) _ / ¯

Re:Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads fo... by tartoran on Friday November 28, 2025 @04:57PM (#46083140)
> And that's considered to be a "good" truck? Good lord I'm happy we don't get such garbage sold here in Europe

Yes, in spite of this it is considered a good car.

Re:Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads fo... by quickthrowman on Saturday November 29, 2025 @08:11AM (#46087277)
I consider my Toyota reliable, it’s 6 years old with 85k miles/137k kilometers. Only consumables (tires, brakes, filters) and fluids have been replaced.

The OPs Jeep is unreliable, for sure.