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Re:NTSB report: Decryption of images from the Titan submersi... by userbinator on Saturday November 22, 2025 @10:03PM (#46020393)
They thought the camera’s file system was unencrypted, when it was encrypted.

Unfortunately this situation is likely to get more common in the future as the "security" crowd keep pushing for encryption-by-default with no regard to whether the user wants or is even aware of it.

Encryption is always a tradeoff; it trades the possibility of unauthorised access with the possibility of even the owner losing access permanently. IMHO this tradeoff needs careful consideration and not blind application.

Re:NTSB report: Decryption of images from the Titan submersi... by jiggawatts on Saturday November 22, 2025 @10:28PM (#46020508)
This is why I always shake my head when the Reddit armchair security experts say "The data wasn't even encrypted!? Amateur hour!" in response to some PII leak.

Sure, sure buddy, I'll encrypt all of my PII data so nobody can access it... including the web application server.

Okay, fine, I'll decrypt it on the fly with a key in some API server... now the web server had unencrypted access to it, which sounds bad, but that's literally the only way that it can process and serve the data to users in a meaningful way! Now if someone hacks the web app server -- the common scenario -- then the attacker has unencrypted access!

I can encrypt the database, but at what layer? Storage? Cloud storage is already encrypted! Backups? Yeah, sure, but then what happens in a disaster? Who's got the keys? Are they contactable at 3am?

Etc, etc...

It's not only not as simple as ticking an "encrypted: yes" checkbox, it's maximally difficult, with a very direct tradeoff between accessibility and protection. The sole purpose of encrypting data is to prevent access!

Re:NTSB report: Decryption of images from the Titan submersi... by Terr_ on Sunday November 23, 2025 @05:05AM (#46022198)
Nah bro, you just gotta use homomorphic encryption! /s

That said, encryption at rest is still good in terms of theft or mis-disposal.

Re:NTSB report: Decryption of images from the Titan submersi... by dh2022 on Sunday November 23, 2025 @11:14AM (#46024601)
Re: encrypting data that would be served via web server: why would anyone bother to encrypt data meant to be shared externally worldwide? It makes no sense to begin with…
Re:NTSB report: Decryption of images from the Titan submersi... by UltraSane on Sunday November 23, 2025 @08:40AM (#46023495)
This has already happened to Windows users when BitLocker disk encryption is enabled by default and they do something that causes the encryption key to be lost.

You can have the key saved in your Microsoft account.

Re:NTSB report: Decryption of images from the Titan submersi... by userbinator on Sunday November 23, 2025 @03:39PM (#46027125)
You can have the key saved in your Microsoft account.

I find it very hard to believe that those who want their disk encrypted also want Microsoft to have the key.

Re:NTSB report: Decryption of images from the Titan submersi... by UltraSane on Sunday November 23, 2025 @04:43PM (#46027622)
Microsoft isn't going to release it without a warrant. But you have to trust their security not to leak it.
Re:NTSB report: Decryption of images from the Titan submersi... by paradox460 on Sunday November 23, 2025 @06:38PM (#46028523)
Unless the JeDI contract is up for renewal
Re:NTSB report: Decryption of images from the Titan submersi... by UltraSane on Sunday November 23, 2025 @07:52PM (#46029060)
What does that have to do with bitlocker?