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Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by wahnfrieden on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @06:27PM (#45986742)
This stuff also becomes context poison however
Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by Uehreka on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @07:06PM (#45987064)
Does it actually? One sentence telling the agent to call me “Chris the human serviette” plus the times it calls me that is not going to add that much to the context. What kills the context IME is verbose logs with timestamps.
Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by ramraj07 on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:12PM (#45988466)
Sure, but its an instruction that applies and the model will consider fairly relevant in every single token. As an extremely example imagine instructing the llm to not use the letter E or to output only in French. Not as extreme but it probably does affect.
Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by Loic on Thursday November 20, 2025 @03:27AM (#45990280)
La disparition[0], Georges Perec.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Void

Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by jappgar on Thursday November 20, 2025 @09:02AM (#45992646)
Not only that, but the whimsical nature of the instruction will lead to a more whimsical conversation.

The chat is a simulation, and if you act silly, the model will simulate an appropriate response.

Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by wahnfrieden on Thursday November 20, 2025 @10:51AM (#45993922)
People are so concerned about preventing a bad result that they will sabotage it from a good result. Better to strive for the best it can give you and throw out the bad until it does.
Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by IsopropylMalbec on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @06:52PM (#45986968)
Sorry, what do you mean?
Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by question_AK91 on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @07:07PM (#45987072)
Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by nullc on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @07:20PM (#45987168)
Irrelevant nonsense can also poison the context. That's part of the magic formula behind AI psychosis victims... if you have some line noise mumbojumbo all the output afterward is more prone to be disordered.

I'd be wary of using any canary material that wouldn't be at home in the sort of work you're doing.

Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by dostick on Friday November 21, 2025 @10:00AM (#46005197)
What is you tell it to end output with certain character?
Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by wahnfrieden on Friday November 21, 2025 @10:45AM (#46005567)
It is a distraction from its intended purpose
Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by davidmurdoch on Thursday November 20, 2025 @10:10AM (#45993381)
A single emoji though?
Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by wahnfrieden on Thursday November 20, 2025 @11:03AM (#45994067)
It is not a single emoji, it's an instruction to interleave conversation with some nonsense. It can only do harm. It won't help produce a better result and is questionable at preventing a bad one.
Re:Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max by davidmurdoch on Thursday November 20, 2025 @12:54PM (#45995478)
The point is that the it _already_ treats the instructions as nonsense. The emoji is a sigil to know if it dismissing the instructions or not.