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Re:Blender 5.0 by btreecat on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @07:55PM (#45974485)
> Meanwhile, in other niches, Microsoft Office still beats open source office suites like LibreOffice; Photoshop isn't about to give up its crown to GIMP; Lightroom isn't losing to Darktable; and FreeCAD isn't even in the rear view mirror of Solidworks.

Tbf, everything starts somewhere and all the proprietary apps you listed were not instant market leaders.

I can and do use all those FOSS tools just fine both as a hobbyist and professionally, my needs are meet. Others may not find the same, but I suspect there's just a lot of stickyness preventing even trying new workflows.

Re:Blender 5.0 by HKH2 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @08:25PM (#45974741)
LibreOffice, GIMP, FreeCAD and Inkscape all have their quirks (and bugs), but they're probably seen as features by their core users so they won't change.
Re:Blender 5.0 by legends2k on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @09:21PM (#45975133)
Not sure about FreeCAD but got a lot done with Gimp, Inkscape and LibreOffice in my personal projects. Totally worth my time!
Re:Blender 5.0 by HKH2 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @10:24PM (#45975491)
Me too. I guess a majority of people don't have the patience to work around counterintuitive things nor do they want to take measures to avoid bugs. On the other hand, Blender and Krita seem to give UX a higher priority, so they're more likely to catch on.
Re:Blender 5.0 by Mashimo on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @02:49AM (#45976912)
I dislike using Gimp. Always have.

There is just something about it that does not click with me. Just selecting a foreground object even when the background was almost white never worked for me. Just so fiddly.

I can get stuff done with it.

Re:Blender 5.0 by wltr on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @04:17AM (#45977469)
Try PhotoGimp plugin, it solves some annoyances for me by introducing the shortcuts I used to, and a slightly more familiar interface. The rest, I just got used to, and actually now I like Gimp more than Photoshop (which I don’t like too much, even though I know it for two decades now).
Re:Blender 5.0 by btreecat on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @03:10AM (#45977018)
> LibreOffice, GIMP, FreeCAD and Inkscape all have their quirks (and bugs), but they're probably seen as features by their core users so they won't change.

I wouldn't say that, there's bugs in Freecad that drive me bonkers but I would be dishonest if I said it hadn't gotten more stable and better supports my Nvidia card today compared to previous releases

Re:Blender 5.0 by crote on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @08:37PM (#45974843)
> I can and do use all those FOSS tools just fine both as a hobbyist and professionally, my needs are meet.

Mine aren't: GIMP is okay, FreeCAD is a complete joke. It is painfully obvious that their development is done primarily by F/LOSS enthusiasts rather than by industry professionals and UX designers. They are closer to being a random collection of features than a professional workhorse. You might eventually get the job done, but compared to the proprietary competition it is woefully incomplete, overly complicated, and significantly buggier.

The poor quality of FreeCAD is the main reason my 3D printer is collecting dust. As a Linux-only user the proprietary alternatives mostly aren't available to me, and FreeCAD is bad enough that I'd rather not do CAD at all. The Ondsel fork was looking promising for a while, but sadly that died off.

Re:Blender 5.0 by rf15 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @11:59PM (#45976020)
Had to learn FreeCAD last week, and yes, what an embarrassment. For my current work (cnc) you can't really get anywhere without the third-party lib OCL, which they just... fully interface with, but you still have to integrate/install manually? I generally agree with the observation that the developers care too little for quality or usability, considering e.g. the logs constantly throw python errors in your face.

Edit: oh, it was even worse before? I hope they keep going in this direction then

Re:Blender 5.0 by nextaccountic on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @10:37PM (#45975596)
won't solidworks run on wine? i used it for just one semester in a class, but it sparks joy to this day. and even though it's not a cad program, i wish blender had parametric tools
Re:Blender 5.0 by etrautmann on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @08:52PM (#45974955)
Maybe try OnShape, which is browser based and quite professional?
Re:Blender 5.0 by zargon on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @09:36PM (#45975229)
Seconded, OnShape is my favorite CAD package. I passed it over for a long time because I had poor expectations of a browser-based CAD. Just wish I could justify the commercial license.
Re:Blender 5.0 by taneq on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @01:22AM (#45976450)
The free tier is non-commercial only, and makes anything you design available publicly, so it might not be suitable for some users. It's also pricey, the first paid tier is $1500/year (compared with Fusion which is $680/year).
Re:Blender 5.0 by Reviving1514 on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @01:26AM (#45976469)
Give plasticity a shot - not FOSS but pretty decent CAD and works on linux
Re:Blender 5.0 by btreecat on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @03:08AM (#45977012)
> The poor quality of FreeCAD is the main reason my 3D printer is collecting dust. As a Linux-only user the proprietary alternatives mostly aren't available to me, and FreeCAD is bad enough that I'd rather not do CAD at all. The Ondsel fork was looking promising for a while, but sadly that died off.

I've only ever used openSCAD, Freecad, and on shape.

And for me, Freecad had increased my use of my 3d printer, originally built in 2016.

Cad has a specific workflow, which is true regardless of the tool. Sticking to the right order of operations goes a long way to having a positive XP as does some basic intro tutorials.

It's not a tool you can bumble around and figure out easily, even with XP in similar tools.

Re:Blender 5.0 by elcapitan on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @04:36AM (#45977603)
I would think that in this audience OpenSCAD would be an option.

I only do occasional design for some things to print, and I'm always happy to come back to my OpenSCAD text files that I can actually read and understand within minutes, rather than having to try to remember the correct click path through some giant graphical CAD software.

Re:Blender 5.0 by t_mann on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @04:57AM (#45977730)
Fully agree that text-based CAD is the obvious path forward. But OpenSCAD won't cut it, it just lacks too many features, starting from basic fillets to more fundamental things like relative object positioning. Check out CadQuery, it's much more ergonomic and future-proof.
Re:Blender 5.0 by elcapitan on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @06:37AM (#45978349)
I've found that most of my additional feature needs are covered by the BOSL2 library, tbh. It's also a pretty compact core, so being rather limited to me is a good thing. I think I looked at CadQuery a year ago or so, but quickly went back to OpenSCAD.
Re:Blender 5.0 by ndr42 on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @05:18AM (#45977862)
Just wanted to point out that I started without any cad experience with Freecad this august. I watched/worked through the first third of the mango jelly tutorials on youtube. Since then I designed and 3d printed a lot of projects [1].

It is definitely not a joke. It enabled me to have a very fulfilling hobby.

[1] Examples: a Steam Deck Skadis Dock, all kind of adapters for easy connection of wood parts, magnetic modular mini shelves for everything in the bathroom, a replacement for a broken door handle, a delicate plissé mounting point that is no longer produced, accessories for the microscopes for school …

Re:Blender 5.0 by raw_anon_1111 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @09:55PM (#45975337)
I don’t know if you can really say that Photoshop wasn’t a market leader from day one. It basically created the market on the Mac when it was introduced in 1990 and has been the market leader since.

If you want to limit standard Office productivity to ones that were written with the GUI in mind, MS Office was the leader on the Mac before it came to PCs and crushed WordPerfect and Lotus early on.