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Re:"I may have found a way to spot U.S. at-sea strikes befor... by parsimo2010 on Thursday November 06, 2025 @12:15PM (#45837583)
There's a distinction that you either didn't recognize or willfully excluded.

It's not that the US is simply "claiming" the vessels belong to a drug cartel, it's that nobody is denying that they were drug vessels. Not even Venezuela [1]. Maduro has denied that he is involved with the drug cartels, and Venezuela has claimed that the one or more of the strikes occurred within Venezuela's territorial waters, but they haven't made the argument that those boats were actually innocent non-criminal vessels.

And once you make that distinction, then yes. The world is fine with blowing up vessels that belong to drug cartels, even if China did it. They probably wouldn't be fine if it was actually refugees, but this does not appear to be the case.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjzw3gplv7o

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Re:"I may have found a way to spot U.S. at-sea strikes befor... by gadders on Thursday November 06, 2025 @12:25PM (#45837676)
Tacitly encouraging/aiding drug trafficking is also a low intensity way to have an asymmetric conflict with a much more powerful country.

See also Cuba emptying its jails and sending the prisoners to Florida: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/criminals-in-exodus-from-...

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Re:"I may have found a way to spot U.S. at-sea strikes befor... by lupire on Thursday November 06, 2025 @12:50PM (#45838024)
Drugs don't harm the other country, so it doesn't help win any conflict.
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Re:"I may have found a way to spot U.S. at-sea strikes befor... by ungreased0675 on Thursday November 06, 2025 @01:22PM (#45838481)
Are you familiar with the opium wars?
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Re:"I may have found a way to spot U.S. at-sea strikes befor... by gadders on Friday November 07, 2025 @04:07AM (#45844744)
Have you seen the fentanyl addicts in Philadelphia?
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Re:"I may have found a way to spot U.S. at-sea strikes befor... by AlecSchueler on Thursday November 06, 2025 @12:57PM (#45838128)
> It's not that the US is simply "claiming" the vessels belong to a drug cartel, it's that nobody is denying that they were drug vessels.

What? The king of England hasn't denied that they're drug smuggling vessels either, it doesn't mean he's admitting they are. I don't understand this logic at all.

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Re:"I may have found a way to spot U.S. at-sea strikes befor... by parsimo2010 on Friday November 07, 2025 @06:15PM (#45852429)
Dude, are you even trying to argue in good faith? Nobody cares what the King of England would say about this, he's not involved in any way. But the fact that not even the country of Venezuela is denying that they are drug boats is quite informative. Don't you think that if these boats were even remotely innocent that Venezuela would be showing the international community all the proof of the atrocities that the USA was committing?

Just because the USA has committed atrocities in the past doesn't mean that everything the government says is a lie. It's okay to be skeptical but if you haven't found any evidence to the contrary you should start to accept that maybe the US government actually hit real drug boats.

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Re:"I may have found a way to spot U.S. at-sea strikes befor... by yencabulator on Sunday November 09, 2025 @08:05PM (#45871002)
> it's that nobody is denying that they were drug vessels.

Maybe this hasn't been aired on Fox News, but people are:

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/colombian-killed-us-strike-...

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