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Re:Longtime Mozilla Support Japanese Community Shuts Down ov... by gyomu on Thursday November 06, 2025 @03:58AM (#45833018)
"I'm sorry for how you feel" is widely accepted as a non-apology in English. Sincere apologies show awareness of how one's actions led to the situation that would require the apology.
Re:Longtime Mozilla Support Japanese Community Shuts Down ov... by apexalpha on Thursday November 06, 2025 @04:03AM (#45833044)
That's great but we're not all native English speakers. And "I'm sorry for you" seems like a hollow phrase to a Dutch person but this is used all the time in English.

It's like how you say "How are you" when you really don't care but it's just how you start a conversation.

Re:Longtime Mozilla Support Japanese Community Shuts Down ov... by fouc on Thursday November 06, 2025 @05:26AM (#45833599)
"I'm sorry for you" is a bit weird, normally we would say "I feel sorry for you", both having the meaning of showing sympathy. It would typically be inappropriate to use either of those in a sincere apology message.
Re:Longtime Mozilla Support Japanese Community Shuts Down ov... by whstl on Thursday November 06, 2025 @05:47AM (#45833728)
Not saying you "have" to know or that the interpretation is even correct for this case, but, just to explain:

The "I'm sorry you feel this way" is quite a recent phenomenon. It started showing up in public apologies by companies and celebrities, purely for PR. It's basically a deflective euphemism for "I'm sorry that you don't like whatever happened" without really admitting culpability, sidestepping all responsibility.

With that said: I don't even know if the author (Kiki) is a native english speaker, since she's part of other language translation groups, so it might be 100% without intent. But that's how a lot of people perceive it today.

Re:Longtime Mozilla Support Japanese Community Shuts Down ov... by gsck on Thursday November 06, 2025 @07:44AM (#45834604)
"I'm sorry you feel that way" was literally the first thing I ever got taught when doing front of house/customer service training. Its definitely a super common phrase, at least in English speaking countries
Re:Longtime Mozilla Support Japanese Community Shuts Down ov... by DrammBA on Thursday November 06, 2025 @11:32AM (#45837022)
Not sure if this is what you intended but you're just proving his point. Customer service is full of corporate-speak, scripted deflection, and hollow niceties. Of course the first thing you were taught was an empty apology.
Re:Longtime Mozilla Support Japanese Community Shuts Down ov... by dcminter on Thursday November 06, 2025 @07:00AM (#45834271)
"I'm sorry you feel that way" is shaped like an apology, but is essentially blaming the other party's feelings as being the problem.

"I'm sorry I did that" is an actual apology.

To be clear, I'm agreeing with you. I think that the former version emerged as it's litigation proof. Corporate PR can say that without it being an admission of anything if whatever they fucked up results in a lawsuit.

It has spread to personal communications from corporate ones and it's now so prevalent that it is possible someone might use it and actually mean a real apology. But it's ... tainted.