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Re:Tiny electric motor can produce more than 1,000 horsepower by ErroneousBosh on Monday November 03, 2025 @08:34AM (#45798785)
I guess if you can make the motor and a suitable reduction box lighter than the equivalent bearing and driveshaft combination you could make the suspension arms mechanically simpler.

By using motors at each wheel you'd eliminate the need for a differential, saving a good 40-50kg or so. Of course, if you kept the drive shafts and put the motor and reduction box in the middle, you'd be able to use inboard brakes and save a lot of unsprung weight!

Re:Tiny electric motor can produce more than 1,000 horsepower by ehnto on Monday November 03, 2025 @09:51AM (#45799621)
I wonder if that would be legal, or if there is a regulation about where you can put your brakes?
Re:Tiny electric motor can produce more than 1,000 horsepower by ErroneousBosh on Monday November 03, 2025 @11:11AM (#45800616)
There are cars with inboard brakes, although not recently. From a packaging point of view putting them out at the wheel makes sense, since there's a lot of space you're not using otherwise.

It's hard to fit inboard brakes to front wheel drive cars because there's so little space but Citroën managed it with the 2CV and various derivatives, and the GS/GSA/Birotor family. They had an inline engine with a very compact gearbox behind, with the brake discs (drums, on very early 2CVs) right on the side of the gearbox.

You got lower unsprung weight and possibly more usefully the kingpin was aligned with the centre of the tyre, so when you steered the tyre turned "on the spot" rather than rotating through a curve.

Some old Jags and Alfas had inboard discs on the rear axle, which was of course rear wheel drive. They were a bit of a pain to get at.

Re:Tiny electric motor can produce more than 1,000 horsepower by avn2109 on Monday November 03, 2025 @01:50PM (#45802742)
Super pro comment, should be much higher.
Re:Tiny electric motor can produce more than 1,000 horsepower by amluto on Monday November 03, 2025 @10:11AM (#45799907)
I’ve generally assumed that brakes are in the wheel because they’re not all that massive, they get decent cooling airflow in the wheel, and they can produce enormous amounts of torque.
Re:Tiny electric motor can produce more than 1,000 horsepower by adgjlsfhk1 on Monday November 03, 2025 @04:27PM (#45804654)
it would be really interesting if it became possible to do electronic only breaks. I'm sure the regulatory system isn't there yet, but it would let you shave a whole bunch more parts and complexity