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Re:You Don't Need Anubis by yellow_lead on Sunday November 02, 2025 @01:51AM (#45788097)
Anubis should be something that doesn't inconvenience all the real humans that visit your site.

I work with ffmpeg so I have to access their bugtracker and mailing list site sometimes. Every few days, I'm hit with the Anubis block. And 1/3 - 1/5 of the time, it fails completely. The other times, it delays me by a few seconds. Over time, this has turned me sour on the Anubis project, which was initially something I supported.

Re:You Don't Need Anubis by bakql on Sunday November 02, 2025 @04:13AM (#45788938)
Maybe buy a better computer. On mine the Anubis challenge is basically a flash of milliseconds. I can’t even read what the page says.
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by trenchpilgrim on Sunday November 02, 2025 @04:15AM (#45788952)
Unfortunately in countries like Brazil and India, where a majority of humans collectively live, better computers are taxed at extremely high rates and are practically unaffordable.
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by bakql on Sunday November 02, 2025 @04:16AM (#45788957)
Sounds like a self-inflicted issue.
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by opan on Sunday November 02, 2025 @03:15AM (#45788681)
I only had issues with it on GNOME's bug tracker and could work around it with a UA change, meanwhile Cloudflare challenges are often unpassable in qutebrowser no matter what I do.
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by throwaway290 on Sunday November 02, 2025 @02:15AM (#45788436)
I understand why ffmpeg does it. No one is expected to pay for it. Until this age of LLMs when bot traffic became dominant on the web ffmpeg site was probably acceptable expense. But they probably don't want to be unpaid data provider for big LLM operators who get to extract a few bucks from their users.

It's like airplane checkin. Are we inconvenienced? Yes. Who is there to blame? Probably not the airline or the company who provides the services. Probably people who want to fly without a ticket or bring in explosives.

As long as Anubis project and people on it don't try to play both sides and don't make the LLM situation worse (mafia racket style), I think if it works it works.

Re:You Don't Need Anubis by TJSomething on Sunday November 02, 2025 @04:46AM (#45789083)
I know it's beside the point, but I think a chunk of the reason for many of the security measures in airports is because creating the appearance of security increases people's willingness to fly.
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by fragmede on Monday November 03, 2025 @02:56AM (#45796813)
Like some sort of theater, you say?
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by majewsky on Monday November 03, 2025 @10:22AM (#45800033)
Yes, this is where the term "security theater" comes from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by mariusor on Sunday November 02, 2025 @02:47AM (#45788590)
I don't understand the hate when people look at a countermeasure against unethical shit and complain about it instead of being upset at the unethical shit. And it's funny when it's the other way around, like cookie banners being blamed on GDPR not on the scumminess of some web operators.
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by elashri on Sunday November 02, 2025 @04:26AM (#45789001)
I don't understand that some people don't realize that you can be upset about status que that both sides of the equation sucks. And you can hate thing and also the countermeasure that someone deploy against. These are not mutually exclusive.
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by mariusor on Sunday November 02, 2025 @04:38AM (#45789050)
I didn't see parent be upset about both sides on this one. I don't see it implied anywhere that they even considered it.
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by elashri on Sunday November 02, 2025 @04:47AM (#45789086)
>which was initially something I supported.

That quote is strong indication that he sees it this way.

Re:You Don't Need Anubis by yellow_lead on Sunday November 02, 2025 @07:15AM (#45789754)
Yup, I'm against the AI scraping. But personally for me, the equation breaks when I'm getting delays and errors when just visiting a bug tracker.

Sounds like maybe it'll be fixed soon though

Re:You Don't Need Anubis by GabrielTFS on Sunday November 09, 2025 @05:22PM (#45869783)
Do you find no one at all being able to access the bug tracker to be preferable to "getting delays and errors" ?
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by m4rtink on Sunday November 02, 2025 @05:23AM (#45789245)
Also the Anubis mascot is very cute! ;-)
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by xena on Sunday November 02, 2025 @06:47AM (#45789618)
I've finally found a ruleset that works for that fwiw. The newest release has that fix.
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by yellow_lead on Sunday November 02, 2025 @07:15AM (#45789756)
Thank you!
Re:You Don't Need Anubis by xena on Sunday November 02, 2025 @07:22AM (#45789792)
No problem. I wish I had found it sooner, but between doing this nights and weekends while working a full time job, trying to help my husband find a new job, navigating the byzantine nightmare that is sales to education institutions, and other things I have found out that I hate, I have not had a lot of time to actually code things. I wish I could afford to work on this full time. Government grants have not gone through because I don't have the metrics they need. Probably gonna have to piss people off to get the bare minimum of metrics that I need in order to justify why I should get those grants.