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Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by bell-cot on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @10:26AM (#45747275)
I'd assume that all such statements carry a "my current emotions, based on recent headlines in my favored news sources" caveat. Vs. the far greater horrors in less well-covered nations. (Myamar, Sudan, Afghanistan, North Korea, etc., etc.)

Older folks may remember the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide - and how little interest most of the world had, as 1/2 to 2/3 million people were slaughtered in a few months.

Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by jedimind on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @10:32AM (#45747345)
It's not just a numbers game. Many of those you've listed also only lasted a few years, while Israel's evil still continues after almost a century.

"Operation Cast Thy Bread was a top-secret biological warfare operation conducted by the Haganah and later the Israel Defense Forces which began in April 1948, during the 1948 Palestine war. The Haganah used typhoid bacteria to contaminate drinking water wells in violation of the 1925 Geneva Protocol."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cast_Thy_Bread

Not to mention that Israel has dropped the equivalent of several nuclear bombs on a tiny open-air concentration camp with no possibility to flee.

Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by theobreuerweil on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @10:58AM (#45747672)
You've now mentioned this twice in this thread. We can agree that you've pointed to some specific misdeeds but you've not demonstrated why is this so much worse than many of the other dreadful things happening in the world. There are massacres in Myanmar and Sudan, ethnic cleansing in China. If we're going back in history, the United States was founded on ethnic cleansing and was funded by the slave trade. Most major European countries have similar track records.

I'm not saying that the United States or Europe are evil places. I'm trying to illustrate that the things you've mentioned do not justify the claim that Israel is uniquely evil, either in modern or historical terms.

Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by buyucu on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @11:15AM (#45747920)
Is Europe or the US engaged in slave trade right now? Israel is committing mass murder right now. There is a difference between past evils that can't be helped and present evils that we have the power to stop.
Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by theobreuerweil on Thursday October 30, 2025 @04:49PM (#45765149)
There is indeed a difference and I don’t think we’re disagreeing on that.
Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by jedimind on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @11:40AM (#45748320)
You've now engaged in systematic whitewashing of Israel's crimes in this thread. Everybody knows what your objective is and it's certainly not "nuance" as you're trying mislead people with your whataboutism strategy. That's why you utilize moral relativism to downplay Israel's evil at every opportunity, while Israel is still murdering children during a "ceasefire"[0]

[0] "Israel resuming 'ceasefire' after strikes in Gaza kill 104 (including 46 children)" https://www.npr.org/2025/10/29/g-s1-95523/israel-hamas-gaza-...

Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by dang on Thursday October 30, 2025 @01:05PM (#45762314)
We've banned this account for using HN primarily for political battle and ignoring our request to stop doing this.

(No, this is not because of your views; yes it works the same way for accounts with opposite views. It's because this is a failure mode for HN, and therefore an important line to draw.)

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by buyucu on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @11:13AM (#45747888)
Rwandan genocide was almost 30 years ago. There is nothing I can do to help there.

Israel is comitting a genocide and attacking/murdering everyone right now.

That is the crucial difference.

Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by mhb on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @02:27PM (#45751019)
Here. Go help Sudan:

Fear of mass killings as thousands trapped in besieged Sudan city taken by militia group

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyld9w0283o

Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by ilegitmadethisw on Thursday October 30, 2025 @01:11AM (#45756639)
Oh wow I didn’t know that America was funding the atrocities in Sudan.

What’s also neat is that in America you can say “free Sudan” and not worry about losing your livelihood, but good luck with saying “free Palestine” and not getting swarmed.

Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by mhb on Thursday October 30, 2025 @01:41AM (#45756750)
I suspect that buyucu's "help[ing]" by spewing into the void about Sudan will have only negligibly less impact than his "help[ing]" with Israel.
Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by buyucu on Thursday October 30, 2025 @02:18AM (#45756919)
What is wrong with helping Palestine? Are we to look the other way as the genocidal religious zealots in Tel Aviv commit mass murder?
Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by mhb on Thursday October 30, 2025 @09:18AM (#45759727)
> There is nothing I can do to help there.

What is wrong with "helping" Sudan? Your comment suggested that the only reason you weren't "helping" in Rwanda is that you couldn't because it was 30 years ago.

If you think commenting here is "helping" "Palestine", you need to recalibrate your assessment of the impact of HN comments on the world.

Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by worik on Thursday October 30, 2025 @03:46PM (#45764451)
The genocide in Sudan is horrific.

It in no way diminishes the genocide in Gaza

Both countries should be sanctioned

Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by mhb on Friday October 31, 2025 @07:23PM (#45777809)
Using the same word for the situations in Gaza and Sudan demonstrates a profound misunderstanding.
Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by worik on Sunday November 02, 2025 @07:09PM (#45794585)
The same thing is happening.