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Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by timefirstgrav on Monday October 27, 2025 @10:13AM (#45721244)
Oh wow... The idea of losing general purpose computing is a terrifying thought I've never considered before.
Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by bo1024 on Monday October 27, 2025 @10:32AM (#45721442)
"The Coming War on General Computation", Cory Doctorow (2011).

Speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

Transcript: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Coming_War_on_General_Com...

(Of course, Stallman warned of this type of thing much earlier as well.)

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by ekjhgkejhgk on Monday October 27, 2025 @11:29AM (#45722094)
Stallman is always right eventually. It's actually quite incredible.
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Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by ekjhgkejhgk on Monday October 27, 2025 @11:30AM (#45722108)
He didn't assault anyone.

He said a bunch of things. They've all been collected here: https://stallman-report.org/

What I love about that report is that the author created it with the intention of making Stallman look bad. And if you look at the author's summaries, he looks bad. However, the author also made us the favour of collecting all the statements in one single place. And if you look at the things that Stallman actually said (as opposed to the author's summaries) he doesn't look bad, he looks strictly correct.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by fsflover on Monday October 27, 2025 @11:33AM (#45722139)
Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by ekjhgkejhgk on Monday October 27, 2025 @11:35AM (#45722170)
Yeah yeah but the reason why I link to that, is that if someone is interested they can with minimal effort find by themselves all the information to understand it was just a smear job.

Like, someone says "C assaulted B". And Stallman says "If A forces B to offer herself to C, C didn't assault B". Which is obivously correct. It could only be incorrect if you were redefining words to serve your purposes.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by dminik on Monday October 27, 2025 @12:04PM (#45722589)
Ok, I'm confused here.

I had a look at what Stallman said and what Minsky allegedly did.

Apparently, Minsky had sex with one of Epstein's girls, who later said she was forced into it. Now, his wife denies the allegation, as she was apparently with him at all times on Epstein's island.

Now, I can believe that he went once, and maybe had sex with someone he didn't know was not doing so willingly. But, what about his wife? Was he cheating on her? Was she a part of it?

And why did he return a second time? And after Epstein's conviction in 2011???

And here comes Stallman, and he's not even denying that he's slept with someone, potentially cheating on his wife? His issue is with the wording?

Nobody in this situation looks good.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by ekjhgkejhgk on Monday October 27, 2025 @12:28PM (#45722901)
His issue is that saying "assault" to mean "sex with someone" is dishonest, even if that person is 17. Which is obviously is.

Any sane person hears "assault" and thinks that means "assault" instead it means something else.

What is happening is that the meaning of words are being changed for the purpose of using pre-existing laws. Example, you think that Bla is very bad and isn't punished enough by the law. There's law that severaly punishes Fleem. So, whenever you see Bla you call it Fleem and argue that the anti-Fleem law applies. That way you can effectively re-purpose a law. Specific example: "catcalling" is now "sexual assault" in the UK. It's easier to do it this way, than to argue that people should be punished for catcalling.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by dminik on Monday October 27, 2025 @12:51PM (#45723289)
Ok, but surely there are more important thing going on there than the wording.

It feels like Stallman wants to defend his friend, but doesn't really have any way to do that. So, instead, he pivots to pedantry.

Like ok, assuming that Marvin really did not know, it's wrong to label him as a sexual assaulter(?). Though legally a sexual assault still occured.

But, it still doesn't explain, justify or deny that he allegedly slept with someone , possibly behind his wife's back. And it also doesn't explain that they went *BACK* to Epstein's island after knowing he was a sex trafficker. And that presumably the girl he slept with might have also been trafficked.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by ekjhgkejhgk on Monday October 27, 2025 @01:03PM (#45723459)
> Ok, but surely there are more important thing going on there than the wording.

Correct, it's the abuse of the legal system.

> Though legally a sexual assault still occured.

Just because something is true legally doesn't mean it's ok, good, correct, moral or ethical.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by dminik on Monday October 27, 2025 @01:22PM (#45723775)
If the victim really was coerced/forced, then there is no wordplay going on here. No legal tricks. No abuse of the legal system.

We're talking about sex trafficking, which we know did occur and Epstein was convicted of. Twice.

And possibly rape/sexual assault, even though the "perpetrator" did not know about it.

You're getting awfully close to defending Epstein there.

I also can't help but notice that you ignored everything else in my comment?

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by ekjhgkejhgk on Monday October 27, 2025 @03:25PM (#45725234)
> If the victim really was coerced/forced

Coerced/forced by whom? Are you actually stupid or just pretending?

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by dminik on Monday October 27, 2025 @05:00PM (#45726230)
What do you mean by whom? This conversation isn't about Mickey Mouse. Epstein was convicted for trafficking (eg. coercing/forcing) women.
Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by ekjhgkejhgk on Monday October 27, 2025 @05:45PM (#45726707)
The specific point I'm talking about is the accusation of Minsky. To my point (and Stallman's) doesn't matter if coersion was done by Epstein or Mickey Mouse.

Anyway, I get that you're confused. However, I've lost interest in talking to you.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by wolvesechoes on Monday October 27, 2025 @12:31PM (#45722966)
> His issue is with the wording?

Pretty obviously.

He is a weird, socially awkward, maybe autistic guy. And such people tend to be quite pedantic and focused on strange details that "normal" people just jump over.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by ekjhgkejhgk on Monday October 27, 2025 @12:34PM (#45723006)
See my sibling comment.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45722901

I disagree it's "pedantic". I think it's taking advantage of the system.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by fsflover on Monday October 27, 2025 @12:03PM (#45722569)
I got what you're trying to say, and I agree. I just added my link for completeness.
Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by dghlsakjg on Monday October 27, 2025 @11:35AM (#45722171)
It’s already happening.

Many big institutions lean heavily on mobile apps and other gated computing.

I live in BC Canada and by far the easiest way to authenticate a login to provincial sources involves using the BC ID App as a second factor, even when logging in via desktop. Many banks now also use their app as a second factor, rather than a generic OTP option that can run on any hardware.

There were also issues like running Netflix DRM in browser on Linux for a while.

General purpose computers won’t go away, but they will continue to be gated from more and more services until you are more or less required to have a phone or locked down ecosystem device.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by donmcronald on Monday October 27, 2025 @12:37PM (#45723047)
> Many banks now also use their app as a second factor, rather than a generic OTP option that can run on any hardware.

This is one I’m willing to tolerate, as long as it’s optional. Something I don’t understand though is banking app setup. When I got a new phone this year, the RBC app made me submit some kind of live selfie.

The thing is, I know they can scan your debit card with NFC and authenticate the PIN. I’ve used it for a password reset in the past. Why is a selfie better than that when they presumably have nothing to compare it to?

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by fragmede on Monday October 27, 2025 @04:13PM (#45725730)
do you not use the banks ATM or go into a branch ever? why would they not have anything to compare it to?
Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by dghlsakjg on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @12:58PM (#45735458)
Canada has strong privacy protections and norms.

It would be quite a scandal, legally and socially, if it was discovered that a bank was creating a database of images of their customers without consent.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by fragmede on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @12:10AM (#45742527)
That's quite interesting! So in Canada, it seems PIPEDA means the banks can't use atm video footage to build client profiles. Cannot say the same for the US, unfortunately.

According to ChatGPT: Only Illinois, Texas, and Washington really constrain that, and Illinois is the only one with real teeth.

Re:What Happened to Running What You Wanted on Your Own Mach... by JuniperMesos on Monday October 27, 2025 @02:51PM (#45724837)
> Many banks now also use their app as a second factor, rather than a generic OTP option that can run on any hardware.

A financial institution I have an account with requires MFA to log in, and the only options they support are SMS MFA and their proprietary smartphone app. This is acutely annoying to me, because it means I have to get up and get my phone if I want to log into this site from my PC (or rig up a complicated Android emulator setup).