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Re:Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Dorit... by parineum on Friday October 24, 2025 @12:21AM (#45690735)
> Even when Boeing knowingly caused the deaths

Since corporations aren't people, Boeing didn't know anything.

Did someone at Boeing have all of that knowledge?

Re:Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Dorit... by account42 on Friday October 24, 2025 @05:14AM (#45692562)
A drunk driver doesn't get to claim that they didn't know someone was in front of their car.
Re:Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Dorit... by wkat4242 on Friday October 24, 2025 @05:18AM (#45692591)
I'm sure the top leadership was well aware of what happened after the first crash yes. They should have immediately gone public and would have prevented the second crash.

Don't forget that hiding MCAS from pilots and the FAA was a conscious decision. It wasn't something that 'just happened'. The decision to not make it depend on redundant AoA sensors by default too.

My point is, I can imagine that the MCAS suicidal side-effect was something unexpected (it was a technical failure edge-case in a specific and rare scenario) and I get that not anticipating it could have been a mistake, not a conscious decision. But after the first crash they should have owned up to it and not waited for a second crash.

Re:Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Dorit... by rkomorn on Friday October 24, 2025 @05:21AM (#45692605)
And who even cares if they knew?

Extenuating circumstances, at best.

Re:Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Dorit... by GuinansEyebrows on Friday October 24, 2025 @11:38AM (#45695729)
> Since corporations aren't people, Boeing didn't know anything.

you have to recognize that a statement like this means that decision-makers at boeing either knew or were negligent in their duties.

Re:Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Dorit... by parineum on Friday October 24, 2025 @10:51PM (#45701022)
Which is a hell of a thing to say without evidence.
Re:Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Dorit... by GuinansEyebrows on Saturday October 25, 2025 @01:27PM (#45705528)
i can’t think of another option without giving them more credit than they deserve.
Re:Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Dorit... by wkat4242 on Monday October 27, 2025 @04:58AM (#45718713)
After the first crash they knew for sure. Yet they didn't do anything to prevent the second one.

Before the first one yeah, you could claim that they might have had no idea this could possibly happen. I don't think that is the case but ok. The second crash however really shouldn't have happened.