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Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by simonask on Thursday October 23, 2025 @07:01PM (#45688537)
Other people are allowed to do whatever they want.
Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by _zoltan_ on Friday October 24, 2025 @03:03AM (#45691713)
certainly! I didn't say otherwise.

however once software that has been only rewritten for the sake of being written in Rust starts affecting large distributions like Ubuntu, that's a different issue...

however one could argue that Ubuntu picking up the brand new Rust based coreutils instead of the old one is a 2nd order effect of "let's rewrite everything in Rust, whether it makes sense of not"

Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by Ygg2 on Friday October 24, 2025 @03:55AM (#45692054)
So rewrites in Rust can happen as long as they don't have practical usage?

This isn't something that affected Ubuntu. It's something Ubuntu wanted to test in day to day usage.

Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by _zoltan_ on Friday October 24, 2025 @01:18PM (#45696846)
ideally stupid rewrites never happen, but alas...
Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by Ygg2 on Friday October 24, 2025 @03:23PM (#45698197)
Iirc it started as simple exercise. It just aimed at high compatibility with original coreutils.

Which part of that is stupid? License is chosen because Rust is more static linkage friendly. Which leaves exercise part or high compatibility.

You might as well say Linux is a stupid rewrite that will never achieve anything circa 1998.

Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by _zoltan_ on Saturday October 25, 2025 @03:30PM (#45706366)
what purpose does the new coreutils serve other than being written in Rust?
Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by simonask on Friday October 24, 2025 @04:32AM (#45692293)
Nobody - least of all the authors of uutils - is forcing Ubuntu to adopt this change. I personally feel like it's a pretty radical step on Ubuntu's part, but they are free to make such choices, and you are free to not use Ubuntu if you believe it is detrimental.

There's no "however" here. Rewriting anything in Rust has no effect on anybody by itself.

Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by bakugo on Friday October 24, 2025 @05:17AM (#45692586)
Yes, people are allowed to do stupid things, but other people are also allowed to call them out on those stupid things. Especially if they make other people's lives harder, like in this case.
Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by simonask on Friday October 24, 2025 @06:32AM (#45693114)
Whether it’s “stupid” remains to be seen. I personally would not have made this choice at this point in time, but the way some people seem to consider “Rust program has a bug” to be newsworthy is… odd.
Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by wolvesechoes on Friday October 24, 2025 @12:51PM (#45696477)
> but the way some people seem to consider “Rust program has a bug” to be newsworthy is… odd.

But the fact that program X was written in Rust is, on the other hand, newsworthy? And there is nothing odd in the fact that the first property of the software that is advertised is the fact that it was made in Rust.

Yeah, nothing odd there.

Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by 1718627440 on Saturday October 25, 2025 @06:36PM (#45707523)
> to consider “Rust program has a bug” to be newsworthy is… odd.

That's not why it is newsworthy though.

"A project reimplementing core OS programs for the sake of reimplementing in the favourite language breaks stable OS", is what makes it newsworthy.

Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by Avamander on Friday October 24, 2025 @08:44AM (#45694046)
Having unimplemented features makes a thing stupid?
Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by bakugo on Friday October 24, 2025 @09:58AM (#45694710)
Rewriting already perfectly working and feature-complete software and advertising your version as a superior replacement while neglecting to implement existing features that users relied on is pretty stupid, yes.
Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by Avamander on Friday October 24, 2025 @10:22AM (#45694957)
Need I remind you what coreutils or Linux (re)implement?
Re:Date bug in Rust-based coreutils affects Ubuntu 25.10 aut... by 1718627440 on Saturday October 25, 2025 @06:37PM (#45707529)
Replacing a program which implements these features and is a core foundation of the OS, which one that doesn't, to mock people not using the latest language is.