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Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by bena on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:09PM (#45687205)
Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them. Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others.

And from what we've seen, he was right to do so. Although, they've been angling to declare his pardons void so they can go after whoever they wish.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by jsbg on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:15PM (#45687288)
> Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them. Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others.

Are pre-emptive pardons a common thing for American presidents to do?

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by jyounker on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:09PM (#45687977)
No. Absolutely not. I can't think of anyone using a pre-emptive pardon until Trump's first Presidency.

Sadly I think Biden's choice was completely rational given how Trump is weaponizing the US justice system.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by mwcremer on Thursday October 23, 2025 @09:56PM (#45689887)
Proclamation 4311.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by ModernMech on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:04PM (#45687911)
Only when the incoming administration labelled your family a "crime family" and led stadiums to chants of "lock them up".
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Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by AgentME on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:27PM (#45687442)
By considering the facts of the matter, sure it's as you said. But if you ignore every detail then it does look like everyone is exactly as bad as each other and it's impossible to say anything is good or bad.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by collingreen on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:25PM (#45687418)
That's nothing like what's being said, I'm really surprised you read it that way.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by travisjungroth on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:35PM (#45687526)
You have the causality mixed up. It’s not bad because they’re doing it. They’re doing it and it’s bad.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by array_key_first on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:21PM (#45688113)
Well yes some people commit crimes and others don't. It's not a double standard, it's the same standard.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:21PM (#45687364)
> Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them

Ha ha. They (democrats overall) need to look inwards for that.

> Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others. Fauci screwed up our country so bad, it aint even funny. The fact that he needed a PRE-EMPTIVE (i.e. he wasn't even accused of anything at the time) pardon says it all. And the fact that Biden gave it to him, says everything there is to say about Biden.

> And from what we've seen, he was right to do so. Not even close.

> Although, they've been angling to declare his pardons void so they can go after whoever they wish. They should.

- Look at what Biden did to the southern border. And look at it now. - Look at almost any "democrat" run major city. Any. Then look at the crime rates and cost of living. - And the recent farce that was this "No Kings" crap...

Trump isn't perfect. Far from it. He's got major flaws, both in character and execution. However, name any major policy initiative that he's undertaken that is bad for the "country". As a whole.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by travisjungroth on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:37PM (#45687551)
> However, name any major policy initiative that he's undertaken that is bad for the "country". As a whole.

This is a ridiculous standard. Each of his policies (individually) only hurting some Americans is not a flex.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:38PM (#45688277)
Everything, always hurts “someone”. There is no universal good.

The totality is what matters, not you, not me.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by Zigurd on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:07PM (#45687947)
Easy: what passes for diplomacy has been so awful that nobody wants to buy weapons from us anymore, nor do they value our treaty commitments. Oh the irony of proposing to meet in Budapest.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:41PM (#45688312)
Buy weapons from us?? That’s your barometer?

And they are not “our” treaty commitments. Treaties by definition involve more than one party.

But out of curiosity, what commitments are talking here? Talking in abstracts is meaningless.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by Hikikomori on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:58PM (#45687822)
>Trump isn't perfect. Far from it. He's got major flaws, both in character and execution. However, name any major policy initiative that he's undertaken that is bad for the "country". As a whole.

They're usually not that bad for his billionaire grifter buddies, I'll give you that.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:41PM (#45688325)
Again, name ONE, that is bad for the COUNTRY. You can’t, can you?
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by zippothrowaway on Thursday October 23, 2025 @07:18PM (#45688693)
I would say normalizing armed law enforcement wearing masks and refusing to provide any ID is utterly bad for the COUNTRY. Or maybe it's only bad for the people who get assaulted or shot by them and have no way of recourse. Let's hope that's not you, eh?
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Thursday October 23, 2025 @07:31PM (#45688818)
I’m assuming you’re talking about ICE here…

That’s how ICE has always worked, this is not new. “People who get assaulted” - seriously? Catching people who break the laws of our country is “assault”?? Show ID to who? People who are not even supposed to be here?

That’s laughable.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by ModernMech on Thursday October 23, 2025 @07:25PM (#45688762)
Personally directing the Attorney General to prosecute his political enemies and then firing prosecutors until he finds one who will agree to do it. Basically what Nixon was to be impeached for now happening on a weekly basis.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Thursday October 23, 2025 @07:33PM (#45688831)
Can you name some examples? I have a reply in my head, but I wanna make sure I’m precise.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by ModernMech on Thursday October 23, 2025 @09:15PM (#45689605)
He posted on Truth Social explicitly directing Pam Bondi to prosecute Bolton, James, and Comey. Then the DOJ charged them with crimes.

In the James case, Kristin Bird and Elizabeth Yusi (prosecutors in EDVA) were both fired for refusing to bring charges, only to be replaced by Trump's personal attorney Lindsey Halligan (who is not even a prosecutor).

In the Comey case, again they fired Erik Siebert, also from EDVA, because he wouldn't prosecute. They put Trump's personal attorney on instead and she immediately gave the prosecution a greenlight against a tight statute of limitations deadline.

Just watch: today there was a report that prosecutors in Maryland are hesitant to bring charges against Adam Schiff. My guess is whoever is gumming up the works there will be fired and replaced by another Halligan.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Friday October 24, 2025 @12:21AM (#45690737)
Got it. It's gonna take me some time to reply to this, because I wanna get my facts right, and on mobile right now.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by Hikikomori on Friday October 24, 2025 @03:39AM (#45691947)
Straight up nazi shit incoming.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by bena on Friday October 24, 2025 @09:14AM (#45694282)
This is why it is pointless to reply to people like you.

You badger and badger and badger. You want examples, you want evidence. You want, you want, and you want. Never do you provide evidence. Never do you provide examples. And if you do provide something you claim to be an example, it's usually some vague declaration that really isn't true. But if someone pushes back, it's on them to "prove you wrong".

And the minute someone points out the actual facts of a situation in a way you are incapable of denying or shouting down, you run to your echo chambers to look for the talking points.

Why?

Why carry water for this administration? Their policies are going to be bad for you as well.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by ModernMech on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @10:08AM (#45747044)
So... it's been 5 days. Anything?
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by fukka42 on Thursday October 23, 2025 @07:44PM (#45688936)
ICE

Tariffs

You may not notice it yet, but he has ruined the reputation of your country. People consider it insane to travel there now for vacations. We are actively avoiding American garbage. We are migrating away from American clouds.

He is focussed on short term bullshit while what matters on the world stage is soft power. America was considered trustworthy, the defacto leader of the world.

Now you're just a bully, an impotent one at that. You are no longer taken seriously.

You will notice the effects eventually, possibly after Trump is already rotting in his grave.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Thursday October 23, 2025 @08:31PM (#45689291)
That’s all bullshit and you know it. And likely won’t admit it.

WE have been the money pit for the entire world for a very long time. Likely too long. People and countries are having a fit because the money flow seems to be slowing if not stopping altogether.

What matters on any stage is … power. Pure, unadulterated power. Soft power is for pansies. And we know how to show and use our power. Just one…one of our carrier fleets packs more power than entire countries.

FAFO - Fuck around and find out.

Edit: The cartels in the south are starting to find out. We can shut down that entire corridor in the blink of an eye, if we wanted to. And we may be there now.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by AdieuToLogic on Thursday October 23, 2025 @09:07PM (#45689548)
> What matters on any stage is … power. Pure, unadulterated power.

This is some straight-up nihilistic BS. Might does not make right, instead standing for what is right is what creates might.

> Soft power is for pansies.

Here are some quotes you may want to familiarize yourself with:

https://www.azquotes.com/quotes/topics/lack-of-empathy.html

Maybe one or more of those will resonate and provide perspective as to many of your recent posts in this thread.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by fukka42 on Thursday October 23, 2025 @08:33PM (#45689312)
Ha. That's funny. But no, it seems you have drank the kool-aid and are delusional.

But you're right about one thing: FAFO

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Thursday October 23, 2025 @08:39PM (#45689358)
Touché.

We shall see.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by beej71 on Thursday October 23, 2025 @08:31PM (#45689299)
> However, name any major policy initiative that he's undertaken that is bad for the "country". As a whole.

Any? His energy policy.

I have plenty more.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Thursday October 23, 2025 @08:43PM (#45689390)
What about it? What’s wrong with it?

Oil prices are down, we now produce more oil than anybody else, and enjoy low energy prices domestically.

Where’s the problem?

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by triceratops on Thursday October 23, 2025 @10:17PM (#45690016)
Electricity prices are up. The administration is cancelling solar and wind projects because of ideology.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Friday October 24, 2025 @12:17AM (#45690707)
Electricity prices are up everywhere. We're still way lower than many many places. There's many parts of the US (take a wild guess where all the data centers are going...) where electric rates are <$.10/kwh.

Now compare that to...

Yes, solar and wind projects are being canceled, and yes, there may be an element of ideology involved, but the reality also is that the math aint working.

If the math worked, Europe's energy prices wouldn't be where they are now, given the commitment they've made to renewables. I'd much rather see a national focus on nuclear, which is as clean as any other form of energy, and to a degree that is happening now.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by triceratops on Friday October 24, 2025 @07:42AM (#45693600)
Lies and more lies. You've fallen for them too.

The math is clear - solar + batteries is the cheapest source of electricity. China isn't generating 80% of all new electricity with solar because they want to be green above all else.

> Europe's energy prices wouldn't be where they are now, given the commitment they've made to renewables

Again a tired old lie. Europe is a big place, just like the US. Some countries have high prices and some countries don't.

Be better informed. Stop lying.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by amanaplanacanal on Thursday October 23, 2025 @10:28PM (#45690086)
I guess we are pretending that climate change isn't real now.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Friday October 24, 2025 @12:19AM (#45690722)
Whether it is or isn't is not the point. A national energy policy has to work for its people first. If it's not working it needs to be changed.

And I guess the two countries (combined) that have almost 3B people don't believe in climate change either? Because if they did...

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by beej71 on Friday October 24, 2025 @07:58PM (#45700293)
I agree it has to put the people first, just like China is doing. And if you want to get on the climate change soapbox, it's too late. The US produces more global warming emissions per capita than any other country, and China's not going to catch up.
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by lovich on Thursday October 23, 2025 @10:07PM (#45689956)
We were producing more oil than anyone else prior to Trump coming in. We’ve been posting ATHs on that front for years every year
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by kapone on Friday October 24, 2025 @12:20AM (#45690729)
I know, and yet...we were draining the SPR for some odd reason. Why's that?
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by ImPostingOnHN on Friday October 24, 2025 @01:32AM (#45691134)
Now we're not, and yet, we're selling pardons for bribes. Why's that?
Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by lovich on Friday October 24, 2025 @04:27AM (#45692257)
Because the energy market has more inputs than oil and that was a lever used to keep gas prices specifically stable.

We already stopped that a while ago so I don’t know why you’re referencing it other than the blatant partisanship you’re showing across the thread.

What level of evidence would you need to accept that this admin had done something negative?

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by beej71 on Friday October 24, 2025 @07:54PM (#45700272)
The US has been a top, if not the top, producer and exporter of oil for some time. Trump's not particularly involved in that above and beyond using it as a campaign slogan.

The problem is that the rest of the world is very actively moving on, led by China. A great many oil importing countries reduced their imports last year. China deploys more solar in 6 months than the US has deployed ever and is distributing this technology to the rest of the world far cheaper than they can bring it here. The US had a program to get 1000 new auto chargers installed. China installed 100,000. People are simply unaware of the sheer scale of the Chinese juggernaut. They think that since we're ahead now (questionable) and we're going 95 MPH, we'll always be ahead. They don't realize that China is going 250 and we're getting passed.

Trump would do well for the country to plan ahead JUST A LITTLE BIT.

But as Bolton said, it's unclear if Trump knows the difference between his personal interest and the national interest, or if he's even aware there is a national interest.

Re:Trump Pardons Convicted Binance Founder by jaapz on Friday October 24, 2025 @04:56AM (#45692458)
> However, name any major policy initiative that he's undertaken that is bad for the "country".

His foreign policy means even the EU is now looking inward more because we simply don't trust you guys anymore. Thanks, we were depending on you guys too much anyway! It will take a while before we're weened off of you for sure, but your global influence will shrink tremendously thanks to your current president's untrustwortiness.

In dutch we have a saying which is roughly translated as "Trust comes on foot, and leaves by horse"