Re:Neural audio codecs: how to get audio into LLMs
by j45 on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:04PM
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Accent detection or consciously ignoring it is a filter step.
Re:Neural audio codecs: how to get audio into LLMs
by JoshTriplett on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:30PM
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Audio models for speech not understanding pitch, seems similar to how text LLMs often don't understand spelling: it's not what they were trying to recognize.
Re:Neural audio codecs: how to get audio into LLMs
by oezi on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:39PM
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> generated from text via a text-to-speech
Yes, frustratingly we don't have good speech-to-text (STT/ASR) to transcribe such differences.
I recently finetuned a TTS* to be able to emit laughter and hunting for transcriptions which include non-verbal sounds was the hardest part of it. Whisper and other popular transcription systems will ignore sigh, sniff, laugh, etc and can't detect mispronounciations etc.
Re:Neural audio codecs: how to get audio into LLMs
by jasonjayr on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:42PM
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IIRC -- the 15.ai dev was training on fan-made "My Little Pony" transcriptions, specificaly because they included more emotive clues in the transcription, and supported a syntax to control the emotive aspect of the speech.
Re:Neural audio codecs: how to get audio into LLMs
by dotancohen on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @02:26PM
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Where can I read about this?
Re:Neural audio codecs: how to get audio into LLMs
by jasonjayr on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @11:05PM
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> During this phase, 15 discovered the Pony Preservation Project, a collaborative project started by /mlp/, the My Little Pony board on 4chan.[47] Contributors of the project had manually trimmed, denoised, transcribed, and emotion-tagged thousands of voice lines from My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and had compiled them into a dataset that provided ideal training material for 15.ai.[48]
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15.ai#2016%E2%80%932020:_Conce...
Re:Neural audio codecs: how to get audio into LLMs
by vvolhejn on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @06:36AM
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I had no idea this existed, the internet is amazing
Re:Neural audio codecs: how to get audio into LLMs
by smusamashah on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @04:35PM
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There was an example, of ChatGPT copying and responding in the speakers voice mid conversation, on OpenAI blog. This was presented an example on non-alignment.
Part of the reason can also be synthetic data: if you fine-tune on data generated from text via a text-to-speech, the tone of the voice doesn't have any information, so the model learns to ignore it.