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Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by wood_spirit on Monday October 20, 2025 @12:47PM (#45646026)
But at the same time they are fielding multiple new stealth aircraft and their jets and missiles outperformed western aircraft in the recent Pakistan India flare-up.
Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by ambicapter on Monday October 20, 2025 @12:54PM (#45646151)
So you'd think they'd be able to build a commercial jet liner, no?
Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by samus on Monday October 20, 2025 @02:13PM (#45647173)
Roughly speaking, an aircraft must fulfill a certain amount of economy (cheap, low cost to operate), safety, and performance.

If you compromise on safety, you get something that is still suitable for the military. If you don't care about economics you can participate in the space race.

But for commercial air travel, you don't have the luxury to pick just two; a competitive commercial airliner has to perform exceedingly well in all three regards.

If you're an airline using expensive aircraft you will go bankrupt. If your aircraft is too slow then your competitors will eat your lunch, and if you have a reputation of being unsafe then your customers will run away or the government will pull the plug (likely both).

IMHO affordable commercial air travel is one of the biggest marvels of 20th century engineering.

Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by kelipso on Monday October 20, 2025 @01:30PM (#45646625)
It’s would be a result of where the money and resources go, I assume. Apparently they haven’t felt a need to manufacture their own commercial jets but they did for military jets. They definitely feel the need in the case of chips.
Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by hmm37 on Monday October 20, 2025 @01:23PM (#45646541)
But commercial jet liners aren't as important to China for security. They have high speed railroads for that.
Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by ta20240528 on Monday October 20, 2025 @01:35PM (#45646685)
So… you'd think the USA would be able to built a nationwide, high-speed rail network?

See what I did there?

Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by ambicapter on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @08:40AM (#45668170)
I mean, they're different industries, so I'm not sure how strong that analogy is.
Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by ta20240528 on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @12:41PM (#45671735)
OP: "So you'd think they'd be able to build a commercial jet liner, no?"

Sigh, the OP chucked out a casual insult at the Chinese because - unlike the USA and EU - their society is unable to (to date) build an international airliner business.

I deftly pointed out that the USA - despite is historical achievements - cannot build a high speed rail network and industry.

Once cannot cherry-pick the data one likes.

Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by fnord123 on Monday October 20, 2025 @01:55PM (#45646970)
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Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by garblegarble on Monday October 20, 2025 @05:09PM (#45649427)
China currently can't make the high-performance, efficient, long-life jet engines that US & Europe make. The commercial market is heavily cost-sensitive, so they can't compete there currently as a result.

This doesn't matter so much for military purposes: they can easily eat the cost of a higher maintenance and replacement schedule on a smaller number of military jets with fewer hours on them.

This gives them more iteration cycles, speeding their building up of experience. They're catching up. Industrial espionage will help them along too, but not as much as the experience from engineering their own designs.