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Re:Ireland Is Making Basic Income for Artists Program Permanent by poszlem on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @08:25AM (#45591326)
This won’t happen until the immigration issue is resolved one way or another. The moment you introduce an unconditional $1,500 per citizen, the question of who qualifies as a citizen will become even more divisive than it already is.

EDIT: I’d genuinely appreciate it if you could explain why you disagree, instead of just mindlessly downvoting as though I’d said something offensive or inappropriate.

Re:Ireland Is Making Basic Income for Artists Program Permanent by cujo on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:28AM (#45593160)
"citizen" is pretty well defined in every country i've ever been in.
Re:Ireland Is Making Basic Income for Artists Program Permanent by poszlem on Thursday October 16, 2025 @04:27AM (#45602819)
Maybe legally, but that's not what I am referring to.
Re:Ireland Is Making Basic Income for Artists Program Permanent by cheeseomlit on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @09:14AM (#45591967)
They downvote because it makes sense and they can't refute it
Re:Ireland Is Making Basic Income for Artists Program Permanent by patrickmcnamara on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:24AM (#45593069)
How is the argument much different than any current arguments? You can already get significant benefits from the state as a citizen (in European countries, at least).
Re:Ireland Is Making Basic Income for Artists Program Permanent by cheeseomlit on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:42AM (#45593388)
The difference is magnitude, the benefits that European countries provide has made them a very attractive destination for immigration, so it stands to reason that something like UBI would make them even more so. No matter which side of that debate you're on theres a point where the math breaks down and some difficult choices need to be made, either you provide these generous benefits to your citizens or you have a generous immigration policy, but both of them together may prove unsustainable
Re:Ireland Is Making Basic Income for Artists Program Permanent by account42 on Thursday October 16, 2025 @06:11AM (#45603560)
Which is why unchecked immigration is already a problem. Increasing the benefits without dealing with unchecked immigration is going to make things worse.