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Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by mtrovo on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @05:22AM (#45577907)
While I share the sentiment expressed, I highly doubt the general public would be as supportive if the roles were reversed, like if a 3rd world country attempted to nationalize an investment from a Western nation, particularly given the history of numerous nationalization attempts in Latin America with very public Western involvement in coups.
Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by quitit on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @05:43AM (#45578032)
I think they're difficult to compare.

The western companies aren't using the business as a strategic tool to destabilise the host country. While nationalising something like an oil company is only about changing where profits are sent.

Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by quitit on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @08:04AM (#45579025)
Edits aren't possible, but what the body of replies (so far) miss is that this is discussing the weaponisation motive versus the profit motive.

The Dutch taking ownership of this company is not to divert its profits, it's to prevent the weaponisation of the company against the host country. There is an expectation that the Dutch have reasonable evidence of this. It's also set against a background of the foreign country's other attempts of unprovoked interference.

The replies seem to miss the mark and provide examples where nefarious activities were engaged in the pursuit of profit, some other examples provided were further off the mark by citing examples of retaliation against nationalisation (which is the opposite situation).

This is why I state that they're difficult to compare. If the Dutch were claiming this company for a financial motive it would be the source of significant uncertainty in foreign investment. That doesn't seem to be the case here.

Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by grafmax on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @08:11AM (#45579101)
Exploiting a foreign country’s own resources such that the profits are sent to foreign owners to the point of impoverishment instead of letting that country profit from those resources by socializing the profits to its people - surely that harms that country. Your distinction between profit and weaponization is superficial at best.
Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by 4ggr0 on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @09:32AM (#45579844)
> Exploiting a foreign country’s own resources such that the profits are sent to foreign owners to the point of impoverishment

I mean where would the West be if it wouldn't do exactly that in Africa, Southern America and surely other places (and did it in even more extreme ways, back when people didn't care that much).

ex. cocoa production in Africa, with European companies being the ones doing and profiting from it.

Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by regentbowerbird on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @06:56AM (#45578497)
> The western companies aren't using the business as a strategic tool to destabilise the host country.

What is your source for this claim? Wouldn't companies destabilize the host country to facilitate their own business?

Western companies have been destabilizing local regimes for centuries at this point. Companies in general are a convenient way to mask state power that pays for itself. Many of these companies were established in former colonies as a direct replacement for explicitly colonial resource extraction.

Searching online for examples I find Glencore, TotalEnergies, ExxonMobil, Chevron (among others) have all recently engaged in bribery or even supported violent political groups abroad to protect their own interests.

Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by mromanuk on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @07:36AM (#45578798)
Read about the United Fruit Company, they created “banana republics” destabilizing governments.
Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by tchalla on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @07:05AM (#45578564)
> The western companies aren't using the business as a strategic tool to destabilise the host country.

Do western governments use other methods to destabilise the host countries? What should be done about those?

Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by mtrovo on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @07:04AM (#45578558)
Really depends on your definition of destabilise the host country, not that this is what's happening right now in the Dutch case.
Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by fragmede on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @07:12AM (#45578604)
> The western companies aren't using the business as a strategic tool to destabilise the host country.

The 2004 book "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins makes the US has.

Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by bariscimen on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @11:59AM (#45581623)
> The western companies aren't using the business as a strategic tool to destabilise the host country

where did you get that info? from cartoons? how old re you little npc?

Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by ragebol on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @05:43AM (#45578031)
They're not nationalizing though
Re:Dutch government seizes Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia ... by smashah on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @08:35AM (#45579290)
This is the premise of the book "Silent Coup".

It explores how western companies use the the Investor–state dispute settlement system to usurp the will of countries to control their own resources. ICC (International Chamber of Commerce in Switzerland) and the World Bank (via ICSID) are the main arbitration venues for this corporate bullying/neocolonialism.

Then of course, as soon as that arbitration is ignored/won then the genocidal defenders of democracy are activated.

If you pull the thread on many conflicts, at some point you will find these courts.

I'm not a fan of the Chinese government but I hope the Chinese firms/people involved use these same systems against the Dutch government.