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Re:Tent v0.1 by wdewind on Friday September 21, 2012 @06:00PM (#4556101)
Email essentially IS centralized at DNS. Any decentralized social network has to solve the lookup problem: how do I find people. None really do this in a way that's going to make it fundamentally different than what we have now.

I can't help feeling that the natural outcome of decentralized social networking is that people eventually start hosting them for mom and dad, then a few friends, then start companies, then we are back to facebook. Someone, somewhere is going to have to have a database of names mapped to servers.

Centralization is, in an abstract way, present in so many of our social structures, that yes, I disagree that within a capitalist economic structure (one which is optimized for sharing of services rather than individualism, ie: non-technical users simply wont do this unless the work is done for them, like facebook did) it would be next to impossible for something like this to work.

People quite simply don't want to deal with this shit, and centralization brings efficiency and management amongst many other things.

Re:Tent v0.1 by jackalope on Friday September 21, 2012 @06:18PM (#4556182)
Email is a decentralized service and the task of discovery is solved with DNS. If you have an address, [email protected], you can find out where to send the message if it is explicitly set (MX record) or not (A record). I don't see why you can't do the same with a decentralized social network.
Re:Tent v0.1 by wdewind on Saturday September 22, 2012 @10:55AM (#4557958)
And who runs the DNS servers?
Re:Tent v0.1 by marshray on Saturday September 22, 2012 @06:22PM (#4559196)
The most popular ones are run by IANA, ICANN, and Verisign.

But nothing stops most of us in the free world from choosing an alternative root system. Other than the support cost of a minor config change in our OS or application software.

Re:Tent v0.1 by Sami_Lehtinen on Sunday September 23, 2012 @02:55AM (#4560248)
Or mymail@[127.0.0.1]
Re:Tent v0.1 by wmf on Friday September 21, 2012 @06:27PM (#4556222)
Email essentially IS centralized at DNS.

The difference between DNS and Facebook/Twitter is that DNS is regulated so that bad guys have to go through some kind of due process to shut down your domain. It's not perfect, but it's better than what else we've got.

Re:Tent v0.1 by unixnoob on Saturday September 22, 2012 @12:01AM (#4557086)
AKAIK it is still possible with most popular email servers to send and recive using only IP addresses (e.g. by placing the address in brackets).

DNS is really only optional for email, at least functionally. But I think a lot of people assume there can be no email without domain names.

Re:Tent v0.1 by wdewind on Saturday September 22, 2012 @10:56AM (#4557960)
So why not regulate facebook and twitter instead of make another service that will essentially turn into DNS, which we already have?
Re:Tent v0.1 by wmf on Saturday September 22, 2012 @12:48PM (#4558285)
Facebook and Twitter were funded under the assumption that they would be unregulated monopolies, so regulating them amounts to stealing from their investors.

Instead of another service that will essentially turn into DNS, I would propose just using DNS for naming. So if you're Tyler Durden you register tyler.durden.name and put an A record pointing to your DiSo server. Now you can switch providers while retaining your identity by just changing the A record.

Re:Tent v0.1 by grovecai on Friday September 21, 2012 @11:07PM (#4556979)
Exactly, no matter how decentralized is the infrastructure, there always has a centralized node, such as BitTorrent tracker.
Re:Tent v0.1 by nine_k on Saturday September 22, 2012 @01:03AM (#4557175)
BitTorrent is capable of being decentralized from day one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_tracker#Trackerless_...
Re:Tent v0.1 by Zash on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @06:12AM (#4569560)

    The original BitTorrent client was the first to offer decentralized [...]
Is not the same as "from day one"
Re:Tent v0.1 by grovecai on Saturday September 22, 2012 @05:46AM (#4557512)
Why it wasn't be?