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Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by Hansappreciator on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:06AM (#45546727)
There's a lot to mock here. Thiel is clearly out of his depth, unless we're going to pretend he's an informed Bible scholar now. And he's clearly not, since the Antichrist as a figure is an evangelical creation about 150 years old and is not in the Bible at all. That's without going into how Revelations, the "source" for Thiel's thinking at large, is itself simply a Jewish mystic condemnation of the Roman Empire.

The "mark of the beast", for example (666), is the result of an ancient Jewish mystic numerology game where they assigned each letter a numeric value to speak about people in code. 666 means Nero.

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by andsoitis on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:10AM (#45546752)
> Thiel is clearly out of his depth, unless we're going to pretend he's an informed Bible scholar now. And he's clearly not, since the Antichrist as a figure is an evangelical creation about 150 years old and is not in the Bible at all.

You, my friend, are ill-informed. The idea of the antichrist has deep and complex origins that developed over centuries, blending Jewish apocalyptic expectations, early Christian theology, and later medieval interpretation.

John 2:18 — “Children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that Antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come.”

1 John 4:3 — “This is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.”

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by frm88 on Saturday October 11, 2025 @03:54AM (#45547433)
The concept of an antikhristos is not found in Jewish writings in the period 500 BC–50 AD.[15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist

It's a later addition, does not refer to one individual only and is said to

... may have been generated by the frustration of Jews subject to often-capricious Seleucid or Roman rule, who found the nebulous Jewish idea of a Satan who is more of an opposing angel of God in the heavenly court insufficiently humanised and personalised to be a satisfactory incarnation of evil and threat same source.

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by Larrikin on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:31AM (#45546841)
What point are you proving by quoting fiction?
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by andsoitis on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:32AM (#45546847)
I responded to someone who said “Antichrist” isn’t in the bible by quoting it from said book. So they are ill-informed.
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by wzdd on Saturday October 11, 2025 @03:29AM (#45547345)
GGP didn’t say “Antichrist” wasn’t in the bible. They said that antichrist “as a figure” wasn’t in the bible. Even the Wikipedia article on Antichrist will give you a rich overview of this discussion and general scholarly agreement that that word as used in the bible does not reference a specific figure.

There is quite a lot of nuance here. You can’t just keyword search.

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by andsoitis on Saturday October 11, 2025 @11:34AM (#45549942)
Many (most?) of the characters in the Bible are mythological…

Even if some are rooted in some real person, the stories about them etc. cannot be considered accurate historical accounts.

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by Hansappreciator on Sunday October 12, 2025 @02:19AM (#45555742)
This is a pedantic, at best, claim.

If you want scholarly, informed, resources that aren't an ignorant billionaire talking out of his ass, I can provide those. If you aren't interested, kindly stop replying to this thread.