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Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu... by jjk7 on Friday October 10, 2025 @12:48PM (#45540988)
Would that be more reliable than just ensuring there are consequences for lying?
Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu... by lenerdenator on Friday October 10, 2025 @12:53PM (#45541042)
Perhaps. If the pilot knows that the ATC can see he's full of it, he might be less likely to lie.

Those who still do can be grounded and be moved into management or take up a career in politics.

Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu... by whycome on Friday October 10, 2025 @01:22PM (#45541408)
I’m surprised the “fuel on board” isn’t something communicated via transponder considering previous low fuel emergencies/crashes.
Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu... by sgjohnson on Saturday October 11, 2025 @10:45AM (#45549557)
It wouldn’t change anything. The line between a “mayday - fuel emergency” and any other flight waiting for a landing slot is crystal clear. Of course, in low-but-not-emergency fuel scenarios the pilots can request priority, but the ATC don’t have to oblige them.
Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu... by jacquesm on Friday October 10, 2025 @01:15PM (#45541325)
As a rule airline pilots don't lie about this stuff. They take safety pretty seriously.
Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu... by mrguyorama on Friday October 10, 2025 @01:19PM (#45541377)
Putting a theory of "you shouldn't trust pilots" into ATC breaks the entire system.

It is a system built out of very regulated parts, very professional people, and tight controls.

Pilots are encouraged to be very forward and proactive about fuel situations because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avianca_Flight_052

Minimum fuel requirements are calculated as "Time of fuel for cruise to certain points", which is usually good enough, but if an Airport is stupid busy, or has bad wind patterns, just a couple go-arounds will chew through your fuel way faster than the regulation expects.

Turbofan engines are also dramatically less efficient at low altitude than high altitude cruise. So holding at low altitudes because a congested airport is dealing with traffic will chew through your reserves much faster than you expect.

Ryanair flies short hops to congested airports. They will have relatively low reserves, and you should expect them to run into "Hey we are low on fuel" more often than international flights for example.

Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu... by inglor_cz on Friday October 10, 2025 @01:35PM (#45541573)
"It is a system built out of very regulated parts, very professional people, and tight controls."

Locally, this is true. Globally, not so much. I remember my friend's vivid description of a flight taken in Nepal. It was absolutely wild.

Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu... by sgjohnson on Saturday October 11, 2025 @10:47AM (#45549566)
> It is a system built out of very regulated parts, very professional people, and tight controls.

also worth mentioning that most of the civil aviation regulations and SOPs regarding commercial flights are written in blood.

Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu... by lenerdenator on Monday October 13, 2025 @11:39AM (#45569581)
I mean, obviously, it's better to trust the pilots, but if they are jumping the line because "fuel low" when it's not low, well, they're not being very professional, are they?