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Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by remh on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @09:01PM (#45522310)
I’ve lived in developing countries where corruption is rampant and things take a long time to improve.

Tap water was not drinkable there, and it sucked to have to rely on water jugs or water filters of unknown quality.

We are not there in the US but the enshittification is accelerating.

Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by billybuckwheat on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @09:17PM (#45522405)
I'm sure that RFK Jr. will soon be touting the wonders of raw water (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_water).
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by thelastgallon on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @09:39PM (#45522547)
Isn't that just free homeopathy?
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by Throaway152 on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @09:33PM (#45522506)
This won't end well lol
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by yen223 on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @09:47PM (#45522592)
On the contrary, this will end with wells
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by Throaway152 on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @10:19PM (#45522800)
This won't end wells?
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by collingreen on Thursday October 09, 2025 @01:47AM (#45523983)
Damnit... upvote
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by syntaxing on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @10:33PM (#45522898)
It’s a shame. I have a RO filter because I don’t trust the government to maintain water quality. I know plenty of people with the double RO filter for their well water. Its really a travesty what water quality has become.
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by dyauspitr on Thursday October 09, 2025 @03:03AM (#45524460)
Yeah double RO filter for my well water here and it’s good drinking water. I worry about the RO membranes though, they are ultimately a type of plastic… and forcing water through plastic at high pressure…
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by Gigachad on Thursday October 09, 2025 @07:32AM (#45526209)
Needs to be a humanitarian effort to get clean drinking water to America.
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by csdreamer7 on Thursday October 09, 2025 @09:21AM (#45527335)
> It’s a shame. I have a RO filter because I don’t trust the government to maintain water quality. I know plenty of people with the double RO filter for their well water. Its really a travesty what water quality has become.

Last I checked the Federal government does not manage private wells. There are exempt under the Clean Water Act.

Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by syntaxing on Thursday October 09, 2025 @11:22AM (#45528962)
Where do you think pollution in private wells come from…
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by RiverStone on Friday October 10, 2025 @01:42PM (#45541669)
You should use a RO or carbon filter even if the government is doing everything right.

Chlorine needs to stay in city water to disinfect all the distribution pipes throughout a city. But at point of use, you should not be drinking/bathing in chlorine or chlorine disinfection byproducts.

Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by mycall on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @11:07PM (#45523068)
It is one of hundreds of things which will be rolled back when a different party administration comes to power.
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by apothegm on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @11:14PM (#45523111)
If a different party is ever again given a legitimate opportunity to come to power.
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by hermannj314 on Thursday October 09, 2025 @12:56AM (#45523671)
Scientific concensus that this is harmful, small bickering on how to set standards, but due to a bureacratic triviality nothing will be regulated at all in any capacity for several years, which happens to align perfectly with the incentives of industry that were struggling to comply with these standards.

Awesome. I am sure the people in charge are smart and this is the best path forward for all of us. After all, that is the promise of free and fair elections.

Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday October 09, 2025 @01:59AM (#45524057)
Jessica Knurick, who IMO posts great content on social media, has a great take on this.

The whole MAHA (Make America Healthy Again) movement is an absolutely brilliant masterstroke by corporate interests. Get people up in arms about pseudoscientific bogeymen like artificial dies. Then claim as a major win how you've gotten big food companies to pinky promise that they'll stop using these dyes in Fruit Loops and sodas in a few years - because of course we'll all be super healthy once we're downing naturally dyed Fruit Loops and soda. Meanwhile, gut environmental regulations that actually do have a measurable positive impact on health, make healthcare even more unaffordable, and kick lots of people off Medicaid so rich people can get a tax break. But hey, at least you'll be the beacon of health since you can now gobble your fries cooked in lard instead of those naughty seed oils.

Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by bodiekane on Thursday October 09, 2025 @07:45AM (#45526300)
A minor improvement to your argument here- artificial dyes are legitimately harmful in many cases. There are good reasons why the EU had already banned multiple chemicals that were still allowed in the US, and it's a good thing to update the American standards to the EU ones (which are generally more focused on human health as opposed to corporate profits).

The focus and prioritization is definitely out of line though, and it's particularly absurd in the face of the rolling back of pollution protections and removing access to healthcare.

Basically, it's focusing on a minor problem rather than the major ones. (But the minor problem is a legitimate one, and we should be solving all of them).

Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday October 09, 2025 @10:54AM (#45528558)
Which food dyes are you referring to specifically that are banned in the EU but used in the US? The 5 major food dyes that are actually used in the US (red 40, blue 1, blue 2, yellow 5, yellow 6) are all allowed in the EU, some at higher concentrations. Red 3 was already banned (though with a phaseout period to 2027) in January by the Biden admin. There are lots of things thrown around on social media that there are all these common food dyes used in the US that are banned in the EU, and that's just not accurate.

Knurick's has a great blog post on the issue, https://drjessicaknurick.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-synt....

That said, definitely in agreement about the major point that it's a distraction, and Knurick says many times she's not advocating for food dyes, rather that the bigger issue is the overwhelming prevalence of ultra-processed (i.e. high calorie but devoid of other nutrients and fiber) foods in the US first.

Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by accengaged on Thursday October 09, 2025 @04:58AM (#45525202)
australia - we drink straight from the tap. its practically filtered
Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by potato3732842 on Thursday October 09, 2025 @06:28AM (#45525768)
Most of the US does too.

And of those that don't it's mostly because their water is supplied by a well in an area where the groundwater has minerals that affect smell/taste and it's cheaper to buy bottled than to filter them.

Re:EPA Moves to Roll Back Drinking Water Standards by Throaway152 on Thursday October 09, 2025 @07:44PM (#45534170)
I think the USA is the only 1st world country with legitimate problems in the potable tap water department.

Well, them and Canadian Indigenous reserves lol. But those have been described as 3rd world anyways.