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Re:ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy... by k33n on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @04:41PM (#45508563)
> It's either right or wrong for ICE to run a dragnet through a city, cuffing everyone, checking their papers, as they hope to find someone undocumented.

That's not happening

> Either human beings have rights and deserve due process, or they don't.

Illegal immigrants are deported as quickly as the law allows in every country all around the world. Sometimes they are turned around at the airport before ever entering. Should we give all of them court dates and set them loose in the country?

Really don't understand the hyper-emotional hyperbole around this topic. Seems very astroturfed. If its not, a lot of people have lost their ability to be rational as they discuss complex issues.

Re:ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy... by softwaredoug on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @04:59PM (#45508798)
> Really don't understand the hyper-emotional hyperbole around this topic.

If you can’t understand the emotion of being sent to a random country and being separated from your family, I can’t help you.

Re:ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy... by yibg on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @05:27PM (#45509111)
I'm not trying to be combative here; genuinely would like to see things from "the other side" here and have a rational discussion. Using some specifics, I see the following as wrong:

1. Doing mass detentions and checking papers. Of course not literally through the entirety of a city, but do you agree this happens in mass at say home depot parking lots, construction sites etc, where ICE doesn't know who exactly is here illegally, so they detain everyone and check. This vs having a specific individual in mind and going to arrest that person.

2. Sending people to countries they have no ties to. CECOT for instance, where they're imprisoned indefinitely without a specific charge.

Do you agree these have happened? If so do you think they're ok?

Re:ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy... by hitarpetar on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @06:06PM (#45509518)
Nothing more rational than dismissing other viewpoints as astroturfing
Re:ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy... by fzeroracer on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @04:43PM (#45508594)