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Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by danw1979 on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @05:13AM (#45500987)
You know an awful lot of detail about the inner workings of two separate private companies though.
Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by squigz on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @07:39AM (#45501904)
Is it really that shocking that someone on HN would have worked at as many as 2 private companies?
Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by IAmBroom on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @01:51PM (#45506396)
Nor is it shocking that a company with a PR issue would be astroturfing our forum.

The point is: we don't know.

Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by vonbullshit on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @09:10PM (#45510921)
The summary is: if you use someone’s VPN, Tor, etc. you’re just setting yourself up. There is no privacy, and if you act like you want privacy, they’re going to pay more attention to you.
Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by rich66man on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @05:02AM (#45513829)
That's what they want you to think.
Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by InsideOutSanta on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @04:48AM (#45513711)
I would assume that if they were astroturfing, they would be smart enough to use more than one account. Given that, I'm inclined to believe that you are part of an astroturfing campaign.
Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by InsideOutSanta on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @05:21AM (#45501036)
LOL, now I'm part of the conspiracy. This is all public knowledge.
Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by dsr_ on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @05:39AM (#45501133)
Then you could provide sources, please?
Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by InsideOutSanta on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @05:58AM (#45501233)
Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn...

Here's the Handelsregisterauszug for Proton, which shows ownership: https://www.zefix.admin.ch/en/search/entity/list/firm/118926...

Proton's peering relationships: https://bgp.tools/as/62371#asinfo

I'm not sure what exactly you're looking for.

Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by steve1977 on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @07:48AM (#45501981)
> Here's the Handelsregisterauszug for Proton, which shows ownership

It doesn‘t. It’s a joint-stock corporation and while the shareholders are registered, the register is not public.

Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by InsideOutSanta on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @08:10AM (#45502150)
Proton discloses shareholder information here: https://proton.me/support/who-owns-protonmail

But I guess they could be lying.

Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by ddtaylor on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @10:20AM (#45503392)
Them providing information isn't the same as publicly verifiable information.