Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by grues-dinner on Friday October 03, 2025 @06:21PM
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How likely is it that a random alien object does a wellness check on a barren planet in the same decade the humans happen to turn on the big survey telescope array?
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Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by ceejayoz on Friday October 03, 2025 @06:31PM
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Shuffle a deck of cards, and statistically no one has ever shuffled the same sequence in all of human history.
It is extraordinarily unlikely you will shuffle one particular order of cards. It is 100% likely you will result in a sequence of cards.
Space is full of trillions and trillions and trillions of these. Given the rate of detection, we’ll probably see them come through regularly.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by grues-dinner on Friday October 03, 2025 @06:46PM
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That's my point. If you turn on several telescopes particularly good at seeing these things and see three objects in fairly quick succession, the implication is probably (not certainly) that there are lots of interstellar objects hammering in all the time, not that the first ones you see are particularly special, even if one of them seems to be making a statistically unlikely near approach to Mars.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by ceejayoz on Friday October 03, 2025 @06:55PM
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Yeah, like exoplanets. When I was in middle school there were none. Now there’s 6,000 confirmed ones.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by onion2k on Saturday October 04, 2025 @12:12AM
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Surely no one was actually thinking there weren't exoplanets though. We didn't need experimental proof that they exist to be reasonably sure that they do.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by dhosek on Saturday October 04, 2025 @12:24AM
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The existence of exoplanets was an open question still in the 80s. They were pretty sure that they existed, but no one had any evidence of it. It fell kind of in the same category of whether the Riemann conjecture is true. Mathematicians are pretty sure it is, but they don’t know for sure.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by baggy_trough on Friday October 03, 2025 @07:14PM
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I’m curious how unlikely it is. Seems very, very unlikely to pass by 2 major planets.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by PoorlyNamed on Friday October 03, 2025 @07:44PM
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Any path it could possibly take is equally unlikely.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by ceejayoz on Friday October 03, 2025 @07:41PM
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It is. It’s similarly unlikely that I win the lottery. But someone always does!
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by baggy_trough on Saturday October 04, 2025 @02:44PM
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The situations are in no way analogous.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by ceejayoz on Saturday October 04, 2025 @03:10PM
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Sure they are. There are likely trillions of these things. We are likely gonna see them everywhere. Like scratch-off lottery cards.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by baggy_trough on Saturday October 04, 2025 @05:28PM
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We have seen 3.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by ceejayoz on Monday October 06, 2025 @08:00AM
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Yes. In very quick succession, right after we put the tech in place to find them.
In the mid 1990s we’d only seen a handful of exoplanets. That they were basically everywhere we looked early on clued us in to their prevalence.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by baggy_trough on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @12:34PM
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We have seen 3 and one of them makes a very close pass to 2 major planets. Seems very unlikely.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by ceejayoz on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @05:00PM
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If you are unaware of gravity, sure. It is accelerating towards the sun, which also happens to be where the planets are.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by baggy_trough on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @10:09AM
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I urge you to take a look at how much empty space there is around the Sun.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by baggy_trough on Friday October 03, 2025 @06:22PM
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Pretty likely if there are a lot of them!
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by grues-dinner on Friday October 03, 2025 @06:27PM
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Then I guess we'll see another one soon (unless we freak them out by noticing them and broadcasting about it!).
Once more survey telescopes like Nancy Grace Roman and Xuntian come online we'll increasingly find out how many there really are and I suppose if they seem to like buzzing the proverbial tower.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by 827a on Friday October 03, 2025 @09:52PM
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In fact, we already have; that's why there's a 3 in its name.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by grues-dinner on Saturday October 04, 2025 @04:54AM
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The other two didn't make a planetary close pass. As we see more of them, the statistical strangeness of the third one getting so close to Mars will fade. (Or, I suppose, they keep doing it and then we really will have a puzzle on our hands!)
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night
by mytailorisrich on Saturday October 04, 2025 @05:33AM
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Aliens have been doing this every few years for 250,000 years but we've just only managed to build barely decent telescopes ;)