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Re:I spent the day teaching seniors how to use an iPhone by eholk on Thursday October 02, 2025 @10:21PM (#45458178)
Bjarne Stroustrup is 74, so he probably counts as a senior too at this point, although surely more technically literate than the stereotypes.

Still, I'm in my early 40s and I find myself baffled when I help my mom with her iPhone. I've been an Android guy ever since that was an option.

Re:I spent the day teaching seniors how to use an iPhone by xatax on Thursday October 02, 2025 @10:40PM (#45458316)
He was around 40 years old when he said it and he wasn't talking about smartphones - at least what we call smartphones today.

> "I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone".

> I said that after a frustrating attempt to use a "feature-rich" telephone sometime around 1990. I'm sure the sentiment wasn't original, and probably not even the overall phrasing; someone must have thought of that before me.

https://www.stroustrup.com/quotes.html

Re:I spent the day teaching seniors how to use an iPhone by flomo on Friday October 03, 2025 @12:58AM (#45459153)
He worked for AT&T at the time, right? Those corporate PBX systems had all sorts of crazy features which people mastered by pounding the 12 keys really fast. And he was probably on the bleeding edge of that. (In many places digital voice mail commonly predated email.)

edit to agree: obv Stroustrup in 1990 was not talking about your cell phone.

Re:I spent the day teaching seniors how to use an iPhone by doublerabbit on Friday October 03, 2025 @06:17AM (#45461181)
The terminal menu driven interfaces were archaic but a dream.

You had help, everything was explained in manuals, they rejected invalid outputs. Now everything is close eyes, press enter and pray it works.

Siemens ISDX was what I worked with. To build a new corporate extension was something like option 5-2-1-1 ext code Y 2-4-7 and then 9 to confirm.

Simpler times.

Re:I spent the day teaching seniors how to use an iPhone by nyarlathotep_ on Friday October 03, 2025 @09:30AM (#45462796)
> The terminal menu driven interfaces were archaic but a dream.

MicroCenter (by me, at least) still uses what looks like some terminal interface for checkout and such in stores.

It's a riot cause it's all young kids and all the keyboards are RGB gamer ones. I've never seen a faster checkout at a register.

Re:I spent the day teaching seniors how to use an iPhone by vasco on Friday October 03, 2025 @01:36AM (#45459359)
A lot of nerve from the guy that invented the hardest programming language to use right, and the easiest to use wrong.
Re:I spent the day teaching seniors how to use an iPhone by epolanski on Friday October 03, 2025 @03:53AM (#45460237)
Even Androids are so confusing to be honest.

Just recently I wanted to change the default AI assistant from Gemini to Perplexity and after having found the option once, somehow, it took me ages to find it again.

Re:I spent the day teaching seniors how to use an iPhone by arvinsim on Monday October 06, 2025 @05:47AM (#45489572)
I guess the strategy is that if you can't force behaviors on your users, obfuscate and confuse the alternatives until they follow your intended path.