A few government officials have said this. No one part of the War Cabinet has said this and it is definitely NOT the explicitly goal of the IDF.

This is entirely made up.

>I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.

> I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip.

For some additional context this initial complete siege lasted for roughly two weeks.

> We are fighting human animals

What else do you call people who rape and murder civilians, then parade their dead bodies around to cheering crowds?

Hamas will never have any sympathy from most people who watched the October 7 attack footage.

Refusing to distinguish between random Palestinians and Hamas members is literally the entire problem

I have ZERO issue with the IDF killing Hamas. That's what you do in a war. But we have ample evidence that Israel and the IDF is not making any effort to not kill random Palestinians.

They made some stupid AI algorithm to feed data into in order to generate target lists. They accepted something like 10:1 "innocent palestinian":"literal terrorist" ratios. They have no qualms about killing a 10 innocent Palestinians to kill a single Hamas terrorist

This is unacceptable.

> Refusing to distinguish between random Palestinians and Hamas members is literally the entire problem

Well, it is difficult to distinguish between the two when you’re hunting down terrorists who hide among civilians. But also, let’s not forget - the civilian population of Gaza VOTED for Hamas. In polls they still show support for Hamas even after October 7. There are videos of those civilians cheering in the streets while the naked bodies of raped / murdered women were paraded down the street by Hamas terrorists. I don’t think you can pretend “random Palestinians” are entirely innocent either.

It's very easy to distinguish a children from a terrorist, children are no terrorists, also, children didn't vote anybody. However, the IDF is killing thousands of children in the most horrible ways.

>What else do you call people who rape and murder civilians, then parade their dead bodies around to cheering crowds?

Israelis.

This is a lie. I read the local media in both Hebrew and Arabic. The entire genocide narrative is based on a few choice quotes taken out of context. Quite the opposite, it is Hamas and other Palestinian entities which have been calling for genocide of the Jews for decades. Notably, UNRWA, not even an Arab institution.

hey, man - I understand this is a stressful time for you. but you're not doing your people any favors by denying the suffering your government is causing. in fact, the bold faced unapologetic nature of these atrocities is why people are talking about sanctions (which is also likely why MS made this move - to avoid being caught up in sanctions)

Be there no mistake, I am not denying the suffering that the people of Gaza are going through. But trying to pin it on Israel is prolonging their suffering. Hamas could turn over the hostages and end the suffering today.

We all know that's a lie. Israel has murdered the negotiators most interested in giving the hostages back. Qatar was the most recent miss, but they got Haniyeh in Iran and he was a known moderate (in the Overton window of Hamas)

Haniyeh was one of the planners of the October 7th massacres in which babies were murdered, and babies were kidnapped, and fetuses were stabbed after being pulled from their mothers' wombs. If that is moderate in your book, then you and I will never come to terms of agreement.

Actually, I'm glad that we are on opposing sides of opinion.

It is not a lie. It is so extreme that it has merited its own Wikipedia page [0], but don't trust that, read the citations. Leaders[1] statements[2] have been chronicled calling for genocide. It is happening in both word and action.

Resisting an occupying force is not genocide.

[1] https://amnesty.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Amnesty-Intern...

[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20250916081026/https://www.ohchr...

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intent_and_incitement_in_the_G...

> Resisting an occupying force is not genocide.

Hamas’s charter explicitly calls for genocide, and the people of Gaza voted for Hamas, and still support Hamas per polls. They support that charter, its ideas, and the actions that result - such as the thousands of rocket attacks for over ten years, as well as the mass murder / mutilation / rape of October 7.

Fighting a war of self defense isn’t a genocide, right? If it is, then is every war a genocide? And if so does that word really provide any meaningful value, other than stirring up emotions?

Can a war of self defence turn into a war of aggression?

I'm sure that it could, but this clearly hasn't happened yet. We still see lots of high-quality videos of buildings being bombed by Israel. That is possible only because Israel warns civilians away from such structures. In a war of aggression, such warnings would not happen, and such videos would not exist.

I would say yes. The question is what definitively makes it that. So far, all I see is subjective judgment. Even in official reports, when you go deep enough in official reports from various organizations, it feels subjective.

It's quite clear which group has genocidal intent, there's a Wikipedia page [0] for that as well. Groups like Hamas are quite open about their genocidal intentions, they even detail those desires in their charter [1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_in_the...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas_charter

At least familiarize yourself with some of the cultural values that pervades Palestinian society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJxjmEbUZxM

You're right, Gaza was not occupied. It was an open-air prison where people are not allowed to enter or leave, aid was severely restricted, and the IDF adopted a policy of "mowing the grass" which was to cull the population periodically. That's worse, but I'm not sure that's the point you were trying to make.

And if you're only other point is to accuse me of something I never said about an event that was debunked several times, whereas the actual kidnapping and burning of Palestinian babies, women, children, and men is well documented and still ongoing, I think that's all we need to know.

  > You're right, Gaza was not occupied. It was an open-air prison where people are not allowed to enter or leave, aid was severely restricted,

You can pin that as much on Egypt, an Arab and Muslim state, as you can on Israel.

> and the IDF adopted a policy of "mowing the grass" which was to cull the population periodically. That's worse, but I'm not sure that's the point you were trying to make.

I've heard the phrase mowing the grass. It clearly referred to the Hamas leadership. You can make up interpretations all you want, but I read the sources in both Hebrew (כן, אני מדבר עברית) and Arabic (وانا بحكي عربي كمان). I know exactly what was said, and what was meant. It's usually very clear.

> And if you're only other point is to accuse me of something I never said about an event that was debunked several times, whereas the actual kidnapping and burning of Palestinian babies, women, children, and men is well documented and still ongoing, I think that's all we need to know.

Israel does not deliberately target Palestinian children - there is no benefit to that. Do you know who does benefit when Palestinian children die? Hamas does. They say it clearly. If you really cared about children - Palestinian and Israeli - then you would not perpetuate the blood libel against the side that until recently went out of its way to protect children.