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Re:After 50 years the magic circle (finally) admits Penn and... by pklausler on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @02:00AM (#45343259)
A learning curve is a model for how much you can learn over time. A subject with a steep learning curve is actually one that doesn’t take much time to reach a high level. It’s the subjects with shallow slopes that take more work to raise up to proficiency.
Re:After 50 years the magic circle (finally) admits Penn and... by exe34 on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @02:24AM (#45343452)
No, the typical meaning of a learning curve is the path you walk up the hill - some hills are very steep, which takes a lot of effort.
Re:After 50 years the magic circle (finally) admits Penn and... by unanimous on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @04:27AM (#45344304)
True, that meaning seems to be typical now. The opposite is the original meaning though.

> Scores of authors use the phrase “steep learning curve” or “sharp learning curve” in reference to a skill that is difficult to master. . . . Nevertheless, from the standpoint of learning theory, these and other authors have it backward, because a steep learning curve, i.e., a curve with a large positive slope, is associated with a skill that is acquired easily and rapidly (Hopper et al., 2007).

Source: Fifty psychological and psychiatric terms to avoid: a list of inaccurate, misleading, misused, ambiguous, and logically confused words and phrases (https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10....)

Re:After 50 years the magic circle (finally) admits Penn and... by exe34 on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @04:55AM (#45344510)
Yes, but most people can hold two competing definitions in their head at the same time!
Re:After 50 years the magic circle (finally) admits Penn and... by InsideOutSanta on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @08:02AM (#45345762)
Overlooking your comment, I sanction your opinion.
Re:After 50 years the magic circle (finally) admits Penn and... by rpdillon on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @09:40AM (#45346905)
Everyone is talking about curves, but no one's talking about how the axes are labeled.

Based on common usage of the term learning curve, I had thought of it much like a power curve where the y-axis is the amount of cumulative effort you have to put in to reach a particular point on the x-axis, which measures mastery. Sounds like the official definition is effort on the x-axis and the total amount you've learned on the y-axis, which would indeed invert the meaning from how I've understood it.

Re:After 50 years the magic circle (finally) admits Penn and... by elsjaako on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @04:31AM (#45344338)
It's a bit of a fossilized error. Like "this begs the question of...", "head over heels", "sleeping like a baby", and "Have your cake and eat it too" everyone should understand what it means, even if it doesn't stand up to technical analysis.
Re:After 50 years the magic circle (finally) admits Penn and... by agos on Tuesday September 23, 2025 @06:19AM (#45345069)
obligatory random mention that the last one is how they caught the unabomber.