> Didnt the jewish concenteation result from decades of "soft" power that evicted palestinian civilians as outcasts? (And in return festered terrorism.)
To which you basically replied:
> But look how bad all the others are and terrorism is almost all islamic.
This ignorance dehumanises and keeps the violence going. Israel cannot make confessions in a peace effort without acknowledging its decades of palestinian desintegration and apparently, the same is true for you.
You just can't accept that answer, because your worldview is built on imagining things, but not on reality. Hence the ad-hominems for op and infantilism for Palestinians.
I would argue that infantilizing group of people, based on their ethnicity, is also dehumanizing.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-com...
> A former Israeli army commander, Herzi Halevi, has confirmed that more than 200,000 Palestinians have been killed or injured in the war in Gaza, and that “not once” in the course of the conflict were military operations inhibited by legal advice.
> Halevi stepped down as chief of staff in March after leading the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) for the first 17 months of the war, which is now approaching its second anniversary.
> The retired general told a community meeting in southern Israel earlier this week that more than 10% of Gaza’s 2.2 million population had been killed or injured – “more than 200,000 people”. That estimate is notable as it is close to the current figures provided by Gaza’s health ministry, which Israeli officials have frequently dismissed as Hamas propaganda, though the ministry figures have been deemed reliable by international humanitarian agencies.
Coupled with the IDF's own databases https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21...
> Figures from a classified Israeli military intelligence database indicate five out of six Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in Gaza have been civilians, an extreme rate of slaughter rarely matched in recent decades of warfare.
Coupled with the fact that half of Gaza is under 18, there's really only one rational conclusion here... and it's one the IDF largely doesn't dispute any more.
What reputable contradictory estimate would you like to highlight?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45360626
I'm left to conclude the fairly obvious.
The longer you engage in "politics" commenting while citing "mods said no politics" as a reason you can't cite any sources, the clearer this conclusion becomes.
Also, separately from the above, it looks like your account has been using HN primarily for political and nationalistic battle. That's not allowed here, and we ban accounts that do it, so please don't do this. Past explanations on this point: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme....
I do understand that it's your forum and your rules. I will try to abide by them.
I hope one day we shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.
And the expulsion and persecution of Jews from Arab countries and Iran.
Regardless of what timescale you use, the presence of Jews in the region predates both other main Abrahamic religions by necessity, as Jesus was himself a Jew.
We can complain about how badly Britain and other colonial powers carved up failing empires til the cows come home. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh certainly can have an opinion on the British Empire. And great swathes of Africa can point in any direction and be pointing at someone who screwed them over.
At some point, we have to deal with how the world is now. History is important to learn from, agreed, but unless it's a really think history textbook it's not saving you from a terrorist putting a 7.62mm-based hole in you, or feeding you pressure-cooked ball bearings.
Most of the terrorist threat to the West is from Islamic extremists, foreign (inc imported) and domestic, and to a lesser extent the opposite end of the horseshoe it emboldens. To blame Israel for global or even regional Islamic extremism is both ironic and myopic. It's also academic. No change Israel could make is going to stop the Muslim majority countries wanting Israel wiped out.