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Re:Several people fired after clampdown on speech over Charl... by immibis on Sunday September 14, 2025 @12:46AM (#45237517)
Counterpoint: If Adolf Hitler had been killed while he was still in the giving speeches phase, the world would be a better place.
Re:Several people fired after clampdown on speech over Charl... by mvdtnz on Sunday September 14, 2025 @01:43AM (#45237725)
Do you recognise that this is exactly the kind of rhetoric that is leading to needless deaths?
Re:Several people fired after clampdown on speech over Charl... by mdhb on Sunday September 14, 2025 @04:10AM (#45238338)
You have read a history book though right? Like you are familiar with what happened specifically on the metric of needless deaths when nobody killed him earlier?
Re:Several people fired after clampdown on speech over Charl... by zahlman on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @01:34PM (#45278885)
The entire point is that the rhetoric is being directed at people who very clearly don't deserve it.
Re:Several people fired after clampdown on speech over Charl... by johnthewise on Sunday September 14, 2025 @01:42PM (#45241700)
would you kill murderers before they murdered anyone?
Re:Several people fired after clampdown on speech over Charl... by roarcher on Sunday September 14, 2025 @03:22PM (#45242497)
I'm sure Hitler used similar logic to justify gassing children.
Re:Several people fired after clampdown on speech over Charl... by immibis on Monday September 15, 2025 @09:45AM (#45249695)
He did. That's why it's important to be able to tell the difference between a situation where the Nazis gas the Jews, and a situation where the Jews gas the Nazis. They are extremely different situations and lessons from one can't be transferred to the other. I can see that if your mother tongue doesn't use subject-verb-object word order (e.g. if it's German), it might be confusing.
Re:Several people fired after clampdown on speech over Charl... by roarcher on Monday September 15, 2025 @04:36PM (#45254603)
The lesson you seem to have taken from it is "it's different when I do it". The motto of every blood-soaked despot and every useful idiot who put him in power throughout history.

> I can see that if your mother tongue doesn't use subject-verb-object word order (e.g. if it's German), it might be confusing.

I'm sure you thought this was a witty repartee, but it's just dumb.

Re:Several people fired after clampdown on speech over Charl... by tomhow on Monday September 15, 2025 @07:16PM (#45256133)
Please just stop.
Re:Several people fired after clampdown on speech over Charl... by zahlman on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @01:53PM (#45279095)
> An eye for an eye and the whole world is blind.

Hatred, violence and cruelty by an outgroup against your ancestors, or your ingroup, or your ingroup's ancestors, never justifies you own hatred, violence or cruelty towards that outgroup.

The Nazis believed that the Jews had sincerely harmed them. That of course did not justify them. What made them "the Nazis" is not that they adopted that name for themselves. We know that "the Nazis" were the Nazis because they gassed the Jews, and because of everything else in their rhetoric and policies leading up to that point. In "a situation where the Jews gas the Nazis", the Jews would be the ones in the wrong.

> I can see that if your mother tongue doesn't use subject-verb-object word order (e.g. if it's German), it might be confusing.

Rhetoric like this is completely uncalled for.