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Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by lynndotpy on Thursday September 11, 2025 @11:13AM (#45212608)
I think that their argument is that this is the only concrete realization possible of the abstract Second Amendment fantasy.

The Second Amendment fantasy is that you should own guns, so that you can kill people in the government and who are adjacent to the government. That means shooting real people with real bullets to kill them.

I think their reply is a criticism of the Second Amendment fantasy, rather than a remark that this is a worthwhile avenue for fighting fascism.

As others have pointed out, Charlie Kirk built a career on the Second Amendment fantasy, even explicitly delineating Democrats as targets he believes are acceptable to shoot and kill.

That said, I do disagree with the assumption that the shooter is necessarily opposed to the Trump administration or even to Charlie Kirk's rhetoric.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by throwaway091025 on Thursday September 11, 2025 @11:41AM (#45212911)
"On September 10, 2025, at approximately 12:24PM, Conservative political influencer Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at the Utah Valley University in Orem, UT. Mr. Kirk was speaking at the University as part of the American Comeback Tour. Multiple SLC I and III agents responded immediately. The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position on a rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus and surveillance video shows the suspect, jumping off and fleeing the area on foot. ATF and other law-enforcement located an older model imported Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspects route of travel. The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top fed magazine. All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology. An emergency trace has been submitted an ATF SLC is working leads generated by the trace. The firearm and ammunition have been taken by the FBI for DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions. Upon completion of forensics, the firearm will be disassembled for additional importer information. Multiple people of interest having contacted or detained because of eyewitness testimony and review of video footage. The primary suspect is yet to be identified. ATF is assisting the investigation with multiple other federal, state, and local partners and the case is co-led by the FBI and Utah SBI."
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by judahmeek on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:15PM (#45213323)
There is irony in an authoritarian majority supporting an oppressed minorities' ability to commit political violence.

While the cost of the second amendment is high, it might prove to be a better political stress release valve than I thought.

If anything, I wonder if the increased political violence will eventually cause conservatives to reconsider their lack of support for Red Flag laws.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by Rapzid on Thursday September 11, 2025 @01:16PM (#45213920)
> The Second Amendment fantasy

Straw man. Maybe that's your fantasy?

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by Whoppertime on Thursday September 11, 2025 @09:07PM (#45217681)