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Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by ngcazz on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @05:37PM (#45204191)
I really don't like how interesting these times are.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by csours on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @05:43PM (#45204291)
I don't like that I'm starting to understand Magical Realism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_realism

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by throwaway346434 on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @07:23PM (#45205534)
For a wild alignment of timing - https://www.jezebel.com/we-paid-some-etsy-witches-to-curse-c... - published September 8.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by PaulHoule on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @09:05PM (#45206421)
Yeah, Etsy is funny. On the basis of what I bought I got an ad for a spell to transform into a fox but if they had really looked at what I bought they would have realized I already had the material list.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by jijijijij on Thursday September 11, 2025 @08:31AM (#45210790)
The thread is part of that alignment. I mean, funny you got a left field chance to bring up the article in a tech forum. It is wild. The whole thing is strangely magical, too, considering the violent irony at hand. Twisted words, a curse, reap what you sow - as above, so below.

“Counting or not counting gang violence?”, Kirk replied. A rhetorical question, of course. He smirked and leaned forward, but to his surprise, he didn't find the hypnotic gaze of his audience, but a gray void. Instead of any thing at all, really.

AH, YES. THE QUESTION OF MASS SHOOTINGS IN AMERICA. A TOPIC OF MUCH DEBATE, I UNDERSTAND.

"Exactly. It’s an important distinction! So-", Kirk said.

I DARE SAY, I AM QUITE FAMILIAR WITH SOME NUANCES MYSELF. IT'S NOT IMPORTANT ANYMORE. NOT TO YOU, ANYWAY. THE UNIVERSE SEEMS KEEN ON IRONY. DESTINY AND SUCH. NOT REALLY MY DOMAIN.

"What- No! What irony?"

YOU WERE, AS THEY SAY, HOIST BY YOUR OWN PETARD. OR, IN THIS CASE, BY SOMEONE ELSE’S. BUT THE PRINCIPLE REMAINS.

"I was just talking! I am not finished yet.", Kirk objected infuriated. Well, the anger wasn't actually amounting to much, as one needs a body for these things.

TAKE IT FROM ME, YOU ARE IN FACT FINISHED. DO NOT WORRY. I AM SURE THEY WILL FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO ARGUE ABOUT STATISTICS. IF YOU PLEASE…

"But- This isn't fair!"

LIFE IS RARELY FAIR. DEATH, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS ALWAYS PUNCTUAL. NOW, IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO FOLLOW ME. THERE IS PAPERWORK.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by whymauri on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @07:20PM (#45205492)
On Sunday, I was talking a Mexican friend about how politicians get killed in our countries (Colombia, Venezuela, Mexico). Just in June, presidential hopeful Miguel Uribe was shot and killed in Bogota. In the head, in front of a crowd.

I remember being grateful about how that doesn't really happen in the US (Trump being the most recent, but he survived). I guess I was wrong... and, in that case, Garcia Marquez might agree with you.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by yepitwas on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @08:39PM (#45206212)
The US had one killed within the last two months, with an attempt on another, and the attacker had a list of other targets.

You could be forgiven for not knowing, since the collective coverage and attention to it since has probably been less, total, than what this received in the last couple hours.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by tcmart14 on Friday September 12, 2025 @01:14AM (#45218827)
Also there was a string of events of a guy shooting at offices of a certain political party in Arizona not that long ago and also a candidate who lost who also tried to hire a hitman to kill the person they lost to.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by jakelazaroff on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @11:50PM (#45207586)
A few years ago, a would-be assassin went to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's house and — when he couldn't find her — beat her husband with a hammer. Here's what Charlie Kirk had to say about that [1]:

> By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out, I bet his bail’s like thirty or forty thousand bucks. Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.

[1] https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/charlie-...

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by ZeroGravitas on Thursday September 11, 2025 @04:50AM (#45209326)
It would be therefore fitting if someone started a conspiracy theory that Charlie Kirk was shot by his gay lover.

I mean a lot of people are saying that. Big if true etc.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by motorest on Thursday September 11, 2025 @02:01AM (#45208327)
> I remember being grateful about how that doesn't really happen in the US (Trump being the most recent, but he survived).

You are clearly not paying attention.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvgv4y99n7rt

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by whymauri on Thursday September 11, 2025 @01:50PM (#45214239)
This is now the 5th comment saying the same thing, so I'll respond. I'm aware of these and they were terrible. In a just world, they would get as much if not more media attention.

The difference is the public nature of the execution. That is what makes it more similar to, say, Colombia or Venezuela _to me._ Within the context of 'magical realism', it is the perspective and mass dissemination of the violence that heightens that feeling.

Going back to the original topic, there is a reason that most of 100 Years of Solitude's pivotal moments happen around the staging of public executions (and not so much the off-screen violence, of which there is some but it's not focal).

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by pjc50 on Thursday September 11, 2025 @05:23AM (#45209495)
The US is in the process of turning into a stereotypical Latin American country, caudillo and everything else. Driven by the same economic and social forces, and in some cases the same people.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by astura on Thursday September 11, 2025 @05:58AM (#45209713)
>I remember being grateful about how that doesn't really happen in the US (Trump being the most recent, but he survived).

Excuse me? Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman were less than 3 months ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_le...

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by computerdork on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @08:34PM (#45206158)
haha, yes, the president dismissing anyone in the federal government who disagrees with him, and trying to turn the national guard into his own personal police department, and inciting a riot/revolt 4 years ago but the US populace still elects him again, and allowing Elon Musk access to all the federal government which he slashes to bits in less than a couple of months (including science research) and having that same person soon after turn on president and the multiple assassination attempts, successful and unsuccessful... and it's only been 8 months since he took office. Crazy times we live in
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by Jensson on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @08:02PM (#45205883)
What times were not interesting?
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by chris_wot on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @08:09PM (#45205942)
He's semi-quoting the proverb "May you live in interesting times".
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by nradov on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @09:17PM (#45206503)
1992-94
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by throwaway31131 on Thursday September 11, 2025 @03:27AM (#45208827)
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by astura on Thursday September 11, 2025 @06:09AM (#45209794)
Just off the top of my head

Ruby Ridge was 1992, Waco was 1993.

1993 was the bombing of the world trade center.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by hollerith on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @09:19PM (#45206515)
In the US, from about 1975 to 2015 were less "interesting" (in the sense of "may you live in interesting times") than current times.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by harambae on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @10:07PM (#45206874)
At least one year in that range where something happened.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by jbboehr on Thursday September 11, 2025 @03:35AM (#45208875)
IDK, man, the '70s sounded pretty wild: https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by hollerith on Thursday September 11, 2025 @02:56PM (#45214916)
Which is why I wrote "1975" and not "1970" or "1972".
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by dolmen on Thursday September 11, 2025 @04:47AM (#45209317)
Like if nothing happened a day exactly 24 years ago...
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by ebiester on Thursday September 11, 2025 @10:16AM (#45211992)
1975-1988 we lived in the Cold War and the potential of nuclear strikes. The African, gay and trans communities (in particular but not exclusively) dealt with the AIDS epidemic. Iran moved to theocracy. In the 90s, we had the Iraq war that was not bad for the US but massively destabilized the region. In the 2000s we had 9/11 and let's not understate the fear from the Muslim community here. Africa has lived through famine and the pains of decolonization after their wealth was stripped and stolen over centuries.

This is worse, but we have always lived in "interesting times" depending on where you were in the globe.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by hollerith on Thursday September 11, 2025 @02:55PM (#45214907)
I was restricting my imaginings to internal unrest because that is what caused most of the death and suffering historically in China.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by kbelder on Thursday September 11, 2025 @03:48PM (#45215439)
I'd say that nothing since the collapse of the USSR has been as existentially threatening as the Cold War.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by davidw on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @06:43PM (#45205106)
Yes, I for one am thoroughly tired of living in interesting times.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by craftkiller on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @09:48PM (#45206717)
So are all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by davidw on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @10:38PM (#45207082)
> what to do with the time that is given us.

Doomscrolling, mostly.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by mcphage on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @11:30PM (#45207444)
Have you tried a mix of hyperfixation and eBay browsing?
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by ngcazz on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @04:22AM (#45259541)
I have ADHD, so I am a way's ahead of you there