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Re:Clankers Die on Christmas by serf on Monday September 08, 2025 @01:49PM (#45171441)
it kind of reminds me of 'mudblood' from harry potter a bit, also from pop fiction -- and similarly considered harmless.

yeah it's not directly harmful -- wizards aren't real -- but it also serves as an (often first) introduction to children of the concepts of familial/genetic superiority, eugenics, and ethnic/genetic cleansing.

I can't really think of any cases where setting an example of calling something a nasty name is that great a trait to espouse, to children or adults.

Re:Clankers Die on Christmas by DoctorOW on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @07:13AM (#45180424)
Yeah reading Harry Potter through an adult lens, and understanding what the conflicts were there to symbolize, it really makes you wish the author had thought asked "Does this children's book need a eugenics plotline?" and if so, "What does it need to say about eugenics?" Though last I checked the author is still arguing historical claims about the holocaust were exaggerated, so I'm not sure her convictions.
Re:Clankers Die on Christmas by hiccuphippo on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @07:46AM (#45180622)
Wasn't muggle also a derogatory name? Some characters were wary of using mudblood but no one had issues with muggle.
Re:Clankers Die on Christmas by rcxdude on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @08:22AM (#45180965)
It was more or less treated as the least-pejorative way of saying 'non-magic-aware' (in a similar-ish sense to 'Gentile'), but it seems like there's no way to have at least a little bit of negative implication given what it's denoting, and there's absolutely a sense that most wizards and witches consider themselves superior to the muggles.

Whereas 'mudblood' was specifically a slur against those of mixed heritage.

Re:Clankers Die on Christmas by mrguyorama on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @01:07PM (#45185008)
>'mudblood' from harry potter a bit, also from pop fiction -- and similarly considered harmless

Considered harmless? The entire point of the "mudblood" slur is so JK can clearly signal who agrees with the literal Wizard Nazis! Anyone and everyone says "muggle", but calling someone a mudblood in the harry potter universe was how literal children reading knew you were the bad guy!